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Hopefully there will be new standards in the future. But for now this is slightly terrifying to me.
I also suspect that their business model is the mafia protection racket - that they may run some of the bots that commit DDOS attacks - it would be in their business interests.
The article's not entirely accurate. It says the storage bandwidth fees are "totally elimiated" but that's not true: > R2 will zero-rate infrequent storage operations under a threshold — currently planned to be in the single digit requests per second range. Above this range, R2 will charge significantly less per-operation than the major providers.
And no, unlike Amazon with Lightsail, Cloudflare is okay with anyone bypassing bandwidth charges when using the Workers Bundled [1].
[0] https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/platform/pricing#k...
I know that Cloudflare is always very liked on HN and the CTO often comments here. I often refer to friends that Cloudflare only exists thanks to HN. But Cloudflare is not (neither HN) the center of the world you could have better than R2 with B2 before for example. And no they didnt disrupted anything. You dont disrupt anything in one week actually. Has R2 had any impact on S3 business model or customers so far ? Pr…
I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". So it's somewhere in the middle between "totally describing what's inside" vs. clickbait-y.
That's still quite the stretch. A pricing update to not charge egress fees for object storage and some types of streaming is hardly "disruptive", as is catering to the web3 buzzword.
I like Cloudflare, but these marketing blurbs start to eat away the goodwill that Cloudflare's technical progresses earn with their hard and quality work.
The big question I have regarding R2 (for those no in the lops: Cloudflare's alternative to S3 with no egress fees (!)) is if the terms hold if you choose to use it to host video. If yes, then wow, this truly is disruptive.
I honestly think it'll get flooded with bad actors and they'll be forced to set limits (e.g. download rate limits, which probably wouldn't be in their best interest since it'd occupy a connection for longer).
I know that Cloudflare is always very liked on HN and the CTO often comments here. I often refer to friends that Cloudflare only exists thanks to HN. But Cloudflare is not (neither HN) the center of the world you could have better than R2 with B2 before for example. And no they didnt disrupted anything. You dont disrupt anything in one week actually. Has R2 had any impact on S3 business model or customers so far ? Pr…
They are competing everywhere CDN, Zero Trust / EdgeSec, Edge Computing, Hosting, etc...
Anyone can think of any good historical good case studies on companies doing this in the past? Like becoming oversaturated, not focusing on one thing enough, or just growing like wild fire across spaces?
The big question I have regarding R2 (for those no in the lops: Cloudflare's alternative to S3 with no egress fees (!)) is if the terms hold if you choose to use it to host video. If yes, then wow, this truly is disruptive.
That's a good question, I wonder how that will play along with their Video Streaming service. I guess this wouldn't be hosted streaming, but a downloadable video file, so they'd have different use cases.
I know that Cloudflare is always very liked on HN and the CTO often comments here. I often refer to friends that Cloudflare only exists thanks to HN. But Cloudflare is not (neither HN) the center of the world you could have better than R2 with B2 before for example. And no they didnt disrupted anything. You dont disrupt anything in one week actually. Has R2 had any impact on S3 business model or customers so far ? Pr…
Cloud egress costs are the primary lock-in mechanism for cloud providers and that's been recognized as such for many years. This isn't the kind of thing which changes an industry in less than a week but I doubt you will want to defend this claim a year from now — Cloudflare is an established, rather popular company which many large organizations already trust and this gave them either significant savings or a big negotiating crowbar.
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I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". So it's somewhere in the middle between "totally describing what's inside" vs. clickbait-y.
> I think calling it clickbait is too harsh. The right headline would be: "Cloudflare announces 3 changes which have the potential to disrupt 3 industries in the near/long future". That's still quite the stretch. A pricing update to not charge egress fees for object storage and some types of streaming is hardly "disruptive", as is catering to the web3 buzzword. I like Cloudflare, but these marketing blurbs start to e…
They are just getting started with the record builders but there's a huge potential runway if they want to take this to its natural finish.
IMO Cloudflare poses the biggest danger to a company like Valimail or Redsift that relies on DNS automation for their solution.
Integrated providers like Mimecast probably don't have anything to worry about. Nor would expertise driven companies focused on consulting, deployment or IT education like dmarcian IMO.