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Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

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Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#21
post #9

Every day I see news that makes me ask myself... the world decided 'lockdowns are worth it and you're an anti-vaxxer if you disagree'.... using calculations that ignored how many factors?

This viewpoint just cant be raised. Downvoted to oblivion, piled onto with unmeasured rhetoric or outright deleted. Times we live in.

Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#22
post #7

That isn't what this [1] article on hacker news a few hours ago says, in fact a lot of people in that thread expect the opposite issue by the end of next year - over capacity and job losses. I know this is a stretch but I'm inclined to trust JP Morgan's understanding of the economy more than I do CNN's. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28687992

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Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#23
post #18

Sounds like a good opportunity to declare a general strike to negotiate a living wage, affordable healthcare, diginified retirement and a voice in the boardroom.

A general strike only works if you have enough people on board. What makes you think there is? It's easy to think a socialist revolution is right around the corner in certain circles of the internet, but I think actual support is far lower. see: amazon unionization vote.

see apathetic boomers and their homes

Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#24
post #7

That isn't what this [1] article on hacker news a few hours ago says, in fact a lot of people in that thread expect the opposite issue by the end of next year - over capacity and job losses. I know this is a stretch but I'm inclined to trust JP Morgan's understanding of the economy more than I do CNN's. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28687992

Not to mention that if we are going to have a systematic collapse, it will be caused by the elites around the world and no "news" entity will gives us a heads up about it.

Remember that Trump was going to collapse the global system with his "war" against china? Apple and Microsoft have gained 2 trillion dollars in market cap since Trump. That's 2 trillion with a T. The media tells us there is going to be a collapse but people with money are betting that there will be significantly more global trade, even with china.

Who knows what they are actually talking about? Someone working at CNN or the monied elites?

Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#25
post #18

Sounds like a good opportunity to declare a general strike to negotiate a living wage, affordable healthcare, diginified retirement and a voice in the boardroom.

A general strike only works if you have enough people on board. What makes you think there is? It's easy to think a socialist revolution is right around the corner in certain circles of the internet, but I think actual support is far lower. see: amazon unionization vote.

That combined with an ineffective leadership.

Just look at what these groups spend their time squabbling over. This DSA meeting is reflective of how little chance they have of getting anything accomplished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NdE9CjkvTY

They become a parody of themselves, much like this Libertarian debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ

Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#26
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing images in the media of people filling open buckets with petrol, I wouldn't be surprised if something awful doesn't happen at some point.

Happened during the 2012 petrol crisis: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-1...

"The accident came two days after government minister Francis Maude suggested that motorists take the "sensible precaution" of filling up jerry cans and keeping them in the garage."

The Tory party, always "sensible"...

Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#27
post #9

Every day I see news that makes me ask myself... the world decided 'lockdowns are worth it and you're an anti-vaxxer if you disagree'.... using calculations that ignored how many factors?

This viewpoint just cant be raised. Downvoted to oblivion, piled onto with unmeasured rhetoric or outright deleted. Times we live in.

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Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#28
post #18

Sounds like a good opportunity to declare a general strike to negotiate a living wage, affordable healthcare, diginified retirement and a voice in the boardroom.

A general strike only works if you have enough people on board. What makes you think there is? It's easy to think a socialist revolution is right around the corner in certain circles of the internet, but I think actual support is far lower. see: amazon unionization vote.

> It's easy to think a socialist revolution is right around the corner in certain circles of the internet

In the West, we’re about 100 years, give or take, into the socialist revolution, which is a lot more like the Second Agricultural Revolution than the French Revolution, which is why people looking for something that looks like the latter miss it entirely.

Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#29
post #25
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A general strike only works if you have enough people on board. What makes you think there is? It's easy to think a socialist revolution is right around the corner in certain circles of the internet, but I think actual support is far lower. see: amazon unionization vote.

That combined with an ineffective leadership. Just look at what these groups spend their time squabbling over. This DSA meeting is reflective of how little chance they have of getting anything accomplished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NdE9CjkvTY They become a parody of themselves, much like this Libertarian debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ

To most actual communists, the DSA is a complete joke. If it wasn't a neutered organization as it is, the whole woke thing has put the last nail in the coffin.

Re: Workers who keep global supply chains moving warn of 'system collapse'

#30
post #7

That isn't what this [1] article on hacker news a few hours ago says, in fact a lot of people in that thread expect the opposite issue by the end of next year - over capacity and job losses. I know this is a stretch but I'm inclined to trust JP Morgan's understanding of the economy more than I do CNN's. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28687992

Not to mention that if we are going to have a systematic collapse, it will be caused by the elites around the world and no "news" entity will gives us a heads up about it. Remember that Trump was going to collapse the global system with his "war" against china? Apple and Microsoft have gained 2 trillion dollars in market cap since Trump. That's 2 trillion with a T. The media tells us there is going to be a collapse b…

In a global collapse, people with the money often are also caught by surprise.
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