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The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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post #15

He lost a little bit of credibility saying the Macbooks have terrible build quality… compared to a thinkpad they are on par or better, compared to everything else they are head and shoulders above.

He didn't say that. He talks about Powerbooks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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post #15

He lost a little bit of credibility saying the Macbooks have terrible build quality… compared to a thinkpad they are on par or better, compared to everything else they are head and shoulders above.

He did not say that, he said PowerBooks had terrible build quality, which they definitely did.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that mobile CPUs are available socketed

Well, not anymore. What a fucking travesty. And note how this laptop has removable DDR4 SODIMM sticks! I couldn't believe it when people were arguing that's impossible because signal pathways or some shit (too many laptops have it soldered these days).

I think that argument has been applied to LPDDR4, which is what most laptops use now in pursuit of battery life

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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It feels like for years we were constantly told by these corporations "it's impossible to have slim, tiny laptops and make them customizable", and I guess at some level I believed that, and just accepted that laptops with upgradable components were a thing of the past.

After seeing the framework, I'm more than a little annoyed that I fell for this. They proved you can have a slim, clean laptop that's somewhat modular, and more impressively, with something like 1% of Apple's budget to do it. Had I known about it, I probably wouldn't have paid an arm and a leg for a maxed-out Macbook Pro a year ago. MacOS is nice, probably my favorite consumer operating system currently available, but Apple's walled garden approach is beyond annoying.

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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post #6

Cool, but why isn't the CPU bring-your-own?

Because they are BGA chips designed to be soldered on, and most people do not have the capacity to do that at home.

And why are they BGA chips these days? That's the real problem. Did mobile CPUs somehow advance past desktop ones while I wasn't looking?

Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used

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post #7

This looks really cool, but the author... is... replacing their laptop every year ? Like, I'm writing this on an 8 year old MBP that has survived as my round-the-house driver because it still does everything well. My daily driver is getting on a bit now (3yr) and my desktop only just got replaced after 5 years. Forget the cost, but the waste!

And apparently it made sense for him to pay 150$/year to get his laptop fixed in 24h if needed, and buy two powerbooks at once... I guess what he really should have bought is a Toughbook instead of a ThinkPad?
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