27" imac + lion + playing video = crash • Hacker News Board

Re: 27" imac + lion + playing video = crash

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Post by sebkomianos » Sun, Aug 07, 2011, 8:47 PM UTC

krakensden wrote: post #20

sebkomianos wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do laptops running Windows face the same problems with Flash?

yes, but it's not as bad

So, it's not entirely Adobe's fault is it?

(disclaimer: MB Pro, iMac and iPhone owner, not looking to start a flame war or whatever)

Re: 27" imac + lion + playing video = crash

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Post by kronusaturn » Sun, Aug 07, 2011, 9:00 PM UTC

sebkomianos wrote: post #21

krakensden wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, but it's not as bad

So, it's not entirely Adobe's fault is it? (disclaimer: MB Pro, iMac and iPhone owner, not looking to start a flame war or whatever)

I'm certain that Apple has provided the APIs that would be necessary for Flash to use less than 100% CPU, the problem is that Adobe has decided it's not worth their time to make use of them.

Re: 27" imac + lion + playing video = crash

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Post by chc » Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 1:34 AM UTC

sebkomianos wrote: post #21

krakensden wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, but it's not as bad

So, it's not entirely Adobe's fault is it? (disclaimer: MB Pro, iMac and iPhone owner, not looking to start a flame war or whatever)

Unless you're suggesting it's the user's fault for not running Windows like he should, I'm not sure how you're thinking it's not Adobe's fault.

Re: 27" imac + lion + playing video = crash

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Post by ZipCordManiac » Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 3:17 AM UTC

Apple must not even test their operating systems on their own hardware. That or they released it knowing there was a HUGE bug like this. Either way, pathetic. I used to think their company was so great before they started focusing on iDevice sales and computer build quality dropped through the floor.

Re: 27" imac + lion + playing video = crash

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Post by sebkomianos » Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 4:23 AM UTC

chc wrote: post #23

sebkomianos wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, it's not entirely Adobe's fault is it? (disclaimer: MB Pro, iMac and iPhone owner, not looking to start a flame war or whatever)

Unless you're suggesting it's the user's fault for not running Windows like he should, I'm not sure how you're thinking it's not Adobe's fault.

If the same software performs better on other platforms then the one platform that has the biggest problems should do something as well, that's what I am saying.

Re: 27" imac + lion + playing video = crash

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Post by keys1234 » Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 9:17 AM UTC

sebkomianos wrote: post #18

dmix wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes my 2011 MBP as hot as it did on my 2008 MBP. Flash's ability to hog resources has scaled in line with moores law.

Do laptops running Windows face the same problems with Flash?

Yup, heats up and hangs after 20 mins of video playback.

Re: 27" imac + lion + playing video = crash

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Post by chc » Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 6:14 PM UTC

sebkomianos wrote: post #25

chc wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're suggesting it's the user's fault for not running Windows like he should, I'm not sure how you're thinking it's not Adobe's fault.

If the same software performs better on other platforms then the one platform that has the biggest problems should do something as well, that's what I am saying.

It performs better on one other platform. In my experience, Flash is pretty awful anywhere besides Windows.

And I'm not sure what you mean when you say "the one platform that has the biggest problems should do something as well." Apple and many Linux supporters are doing something — they're aggressively pushing HTML5 and related technologies as an alternative to Flash, over which they have no control.