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Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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425-430-7500 option 8 is the number for the police department in question. I think that people tend to act differently if they know they are being watched so I called and talked to the person who answered to (a) confirm the story and (b) express my concerns about the abuse of power.

Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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well, at least they didn't do that to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ljYNgLnpxM

The man in the video, Kelly Thomas, was beaten so severely by police that he went into a coma. The pictures are heart-wrenching ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Thomas_(beating_victim) )

He died three days later from the beating. Even after he was handcuffed, the officers beat him repeatedly with flashlights and the butt of their tasers. Just tragic.

Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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Cops are legal terrorists.

I wouldn't be too quick to write all cops off as bad. There are definitely a good number of "good" cops. We should make sure not to stereotype policemen because a few of them do something idiotic. I think a big problem with a lot of government positions or other legal positions are that a noticeable (hence this situation) percentage of the people are power-hungry, or have a chip on their shoulder. Which results in un…

>I wouldn't be too quick to write all cops off as bad. There are definitely a good number of "good" cops.

the system easy makes bad even out of the good ones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

"Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear, and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority."

Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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post #20
post #6

Cops are legal terrorists.

I wouldn't be too quick to write all cops off as bad. There are definitely a good number of "good" cops. We should make sure not to stereotype policemen because a few of them do something idiotic. I think a big problem with a lot of government positions or other legal positions are that a noticeable (hence this situation) percentage of the people are power-hungry, or have a chip on their shoulder. Which results in un…

> I wouldn't be too quick to write all cops off as bad. There are definitely a good number of "good" cops.

"Good" and "bad" are very complicated. Nobody is purely good or purely bad. But police corruption was universal in US police departments until 1971, when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Serpico became the first US policeman to testify against his colleagues, for which he got shot in the head. Up to that point, every US policeman was engaged in a cover-up operation to protect other corrupt policemen. Since then, there are a few exceptions; now, it's only nearly every US policeman who engages in such cover-ups.

But it's important to understand that the people who do this believe that what they are doing is good. The Blue Code of Silence is not merely enforced by intimidation and threats of violence. It's a matter of honor.

Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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well, at least they didn't do that to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ljYNgLnpxM

This has caused quite a stir here in SoCal. The Fullerton PD is now under investigation by the FBI, the officers in the video are in hiding due to death threats, and three of the city council members are being targeted for recall.

Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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From the article: "illicit relations between a female cop and a police officer" ...are female cops not police officers? Are police officers never female? I hope I'm missing some detail in terminology because this smacks of sexism on the part of the author.

No, I think it's just sloppy, probably the same incident from this quote (later in the article):

Chief Prosecutor Shawn Arthur writes, "[The videos] discussed a past incident tha has already been investigated.. regarding a dating relationship (a female detective) had with a suspect."

Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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well, at least they didn't do that to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ljYNgLnpxM

The guy's screaming "Dad! Dad! Dad!" ... that breaks my heart. One bystander wisely asks "How do you resist when they're on top of your back?" and then wonders why they don't just put the cuffs on him and be done with it. That's a common theme I've noticed with these incidents: the assailants keep saying "stop resisting! stop resisting!" But I imagine it's kind of hard to stop struggling and moving around when you're…

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Re: Police: Mock us in Cartoons, go to Prison

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From the article: "illicit relations between a female cop and a police officer" ...are female cops not police officers? Are police officers never female? I hope I'm missing some detail in terminology because this smacks of sexism on the part of the author.

The article is almost unreadable due to the many grammatical errors contained within.

It's a shame too, for such an important story.

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