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Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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From the conclusion:

> This article has discussed how money is created in the modern economy. Most of the money in circulation is created, not by the printing presses of the Bank of England, but by the commercial banks themselves: banks create money whenever they lend to someone in the economy or buy an asset from consumers. And in contrast to descriptions found in some textbooks, the Bank of England does not directly control the quantity of either base or broad money. The Bank of England is nevertheless still able to influence the amount of money in the economy. It does so in normal times by setting monetary policy — through the interest rate that it pays on reserves held by commercial banks with the Bank of England. More recently, though, with Bank Rate constrained by the effective lower bound, the Bank of England’s asset purchase programme has sought to raise the quantity of broad money in circulation. This in turn affects the prices and quantities of a range of assets in the economy, including money.

The discussion seems incomplete without mentioning government deficit spending. This is, after all, the premise of Modern Monetary Theory: that unlike households, currency issuers like the US federal government aren't under the same balanced budget constraints as households. Currency issuers can create money by spending it into being.

Budget deficits can be financed through the issuance of bonds, which look a lot like loans. But they can also be financed by just printing the money. The end result is the same, money into the pockets of people, but the implications are very different.

The MMT perspective is gaining ground, especially as the world's governments find it increasingly difficult to avoid deficit spending. A leading proponent (Kelton) proposes ditching deficit targets altogether in favor of inflation targets.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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Some of the content is in this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvRAqR2pAgw Money is created by both the central bank and retail banks. When the Bank of England buys an asset, it pays in newly-created pounds. These pounds are an obligation of the central bank, i.e. a debt owed by the bank. So these pounds are 'central bank money'. When a commercial or retail bank gives you a loan, you have two accounts at…

So this begs the question: how come private banks can do this (create money + a matching liability, that is, with no interest), but private individuals can't? Why can't I, if I want to buy a car, not simply give myself 20,000€ cash and register a 20,000€ liability, which I will pay back in due course? The bank creates zero-cost virtual cash and then earns interest by loaning it as if it was real! This is already ques…

"not simply give myself 20,000€ cash"

Only the ECB and national central banks can create € notes (by which I mean central bank cash money).

Nothing is stopping you from creating your own notes denominated in €, but these would be obligations (IOUs) issued by andrepd. Just like bank deposits, these notes are private money, not central bank money.

It might be tough for you to find a car dealer willing to accept these andrepd € notes, though.

"The bank creates zero-cost virtual cash"

Making loans changes banks' reserve requirements, so they're not zero-cost.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this begs the question: how come private banks can do this (create money + a matching liability, that is, with no interest), but private individuals can't? Why can't I, if I want to buy a car, not simply give myself 20,000€ cash and register a 20,000€ liability, which I will pay back in due course? The bank creates zero-cost virtual cash and then earns interest by loaning it as if it was real! This is already ques…

Banks are regulated through the nose (in most places at most times) to make sure they don’t mess it up. The money creation is a carefully choreographed juggling act where balls can’t fall on the ground. The extra money created is effectively money someone doesn’t need right now (deposit) that can be temporarily used, and returned eventually, by someone else. When it works, it works very well, but when it doesn’t, ban…

> Banks are regulated through the nose (in most places at most times) to make sure they don’t mess it up.

Eehhhhhhh........ Sounds like that isn't working out so well is it? x) With the only difference of course that if _I_ fail my obligations I don't get a taxpayer-funded bailout financed by cuts to people's salaries and pensions, instead my house gets reposessed and I go live with my kids to a homeless shelter.

But anyways. So give me similar rules: asset/liability ratios, cash flow minimums, the works!, to determine how much I can create by this mechanism.

> The extra money created is effectively money someone doesn’t need right now (deposit) that can be temporarily used, and returned eventually, by someone else.

That's not true in fractional reserve banking, and we're actually well last that, we're into no-reserve banking now.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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post #21

From the conclusion: > This article has discussed how money is created in the modern economy. Most of the money in circulation is created, not by the printing presses of the Bank of England, but by the commercial banks themselves: banks create money whenever they lend to someone in the economy or buy an asset from consumers. And in contrast to descriptions found in some textbooks, the Bank of England does not directl…

The central bank is the part of the government that can issue money, and it's included in the explanation.

With regard to its effect on the money supply, the rest of the government is no different than any other borrower since it can't (or at least doesn't) directly issue currency.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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post #16

Some of the content is in this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvRAqR2pAgw Money is created by both the central bank and retail banks. When the Bank of England buys an asset, it pays in newly-created pounds. These pounds are an obligation of the central bank, i.e. a debt owed by the bank. So these pounds are 'central bank money'. When a commercial or retail bank gives you a loan, you have two accounts at…

So this begs the question: how come private banks can do this (create money + a matching liability, that is, with no interest), but private individuals can't? Why can't I, if I want to buy a car, not simply give myself 20,000€ cash and register a 20,000€ liability, which I will pay back in due course? The bank creates zero-cost virtual cash and then earns interest by loaning it as if it was real! This is already ques…

When banks create money with a matching liability, they face the risk that the customer will try to take the money out in cash, or transfer it to an account at a different bank. In order to accommodate this they actually have to have the cash on hand, or borrow it from another bank with interest.

Likewise if you have 20,000€ on hand, or can borrow it from somewhere, you can use it to buy a car. You can then keep a mental note that you 'owe yourself' this money, but doing so makes no real difference.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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post #16

Some of the content is in this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvRAqR2pAgw Money is created by both the central bank and retail banks. When the Bank of England buys an asset, it pays in newly-created pounds. These pounds are an obligation of the central bank, i.e. a debt owed by the bank. So these pounds are 'central bank money'. When a commercial or retail bank gives you a loan, you have two accounts at…

So this begs the question: how come private banks can do this (create money + a matching liability, that is, with no interest), but private individuals can't? Why can't I, if I want to buy a car, not simply give myself 20,000€ cash and register a 20,000€ liability, which I will pay back in due course? The bank creates zero-cost virtual cash and then earns interest by loaning it as if it was real! This is already ques…

You could buy a lawn mower and keep it in your garage. Then you go and knock on the door of ten other houses on your street, and say "I've bought you a lawnmower for Christmas! You just need to keep it in my garage though, rather than your own. Come and use it whenever you like! Please put it back afterwards". And then, hey presto, you have created 10 lawnmowers out of nothing. Unless of course, there's a run on lawnmowers and two of your neighbours need to use it at the same time.

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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I sometimes wonder how anything about economics can be tested when the world’s manufacturing has been outsourced to China. All of these theories rest on the fact inflation has been largely under control in the west, not because of a lack of gold standard but because almost all physical items have had zero or negative inflation for 30 years or so. All the things not “Made in China” I would say have been massively inflated. If we were to start having to produce say plumbing supplies locally (say due to Climate change) will these theoretical money creation mechanisms still work?

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this begs the question: how come private banks can do this (create money + a matching liability, that is, with no interest), but private individuals can't? Why can't I, if I want to buy a car, not simply give myself 20,000€ cash and register a 20,000€ liability, which I will pay back in due course? The bank creates zero-cost virtual cash and then earns interest by loaning it as if it was real! This is already ques…

Yes, there are plenty of powers that we limit to a subset of chartered organizations. If you want to have a share in this power, you can buy ownership in a bank - a share of JP Morgan is about $160. I disagree that it is intrinsically wrong that some people can do something that you cannot do.

Well that's a very unsatisfactory answer. As to the 1st paragraph: what do you mean? That's not at all what I'm saying, buying shares in JPMorgan doesn't give me money creation privileges. As to the 2nd: if you restrict rights and privileges to one group of people you better have a good reason why! Just saying "it is so" is not a good reason :)

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

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post #21

From the conclusion: > This article has discussed how money is created in the modern economy. Most of the money in circulation is created, not by the printing presses of the Bank of England, but by the commercial banks themselves: banks create money whenever they lend to someone in the economy or buy an asset from consumers. And in contrast to descriptions found in some textbooks, the Bank of England does not directl…

> Budget deficits can be financed through the issuance of bonds, which look a lot like loans. But they can also be financed by just printing the money. The end result is the same, money into the pockets of people, but the implications are very different.

Actually, its worse than that. The treasuries are created, sold to bank and the bank immediately sells it to the Fed for cash for a nice little profit (at least in the US)

From the Fed:

> The Federal Reserve purchases Treasury securities held by the public through a competitive bidding process. The Federal Reserve does not purchase new Treasury securities directly from the U.S. Treasury, and Federal Reserve purchases of Treasury securities from the public are not a means of financing the federal deficit.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/how-does-the-federal-res...

Re: Money creation in the modern economy (2014) [pdf]

#30
post #16

Some of the content is in this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvRAqR2pAgw Money is created by both the central bank and retail banks. When the Bank of England buys an asset, it pays in newly-created pounds. These pounds are an obligation of the central bank, i.e. a debt owed by the bank. So these pounds are 'central bank money'. When a commercial or retail bank gives you a loan, you have two accounts at…

So this begs the question: how come private banks can do this (create money + a matching liability, that is, with no interest), but private individuals can't? Why can't I, if I want to buy a car, not simply give myself 20,000€ cash and register a 20,000€ liability, which I will pay back in due course? The bank creates zero-cost virtual cash and then earns interest by loaning it as if it was real! This is already ques…

It sounds like "creating money out of thin air" here more specifically means "increasing the amount of currency in circulation by exchanging it for liens or other obligations for payback." Not just printing money in a vaccum.

I don't think a bank without deposits would get very far issuing loans.

My understanding: The bank isn't required to hold 100% of the money you deposit in cash, though. It can lend it out up to certain limits. So if everyone tries to cash out all at once, shit will go sideways. But it's not because the money didn't exist before: the bank has a claim to a lot of assets to still attempt to balance it out in the case of collateralized loans.

If the bank wasn't there, we'd have to P2P all our lending. The bank just acts as a bigger, hopefully-more-efficient middleman, with a bunch of government regulation trying to balance out the risk/reward. If you, as an individual lender, chose the wrong person to lend to, your money would be at risk - similarly to if you choose a bank that massively fucks it up. But the deposit bank would have to fuck up way worse, under normal circumstances.

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