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Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers

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Re: Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers

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Post by Auracle »

dragontamer wrote: post #13
francis-io wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you risk side effects (which are really low, but do exist) if you already have antibodies? Is argue you do "lose something" if you get a vaccine after having recovered from covid.

Because we know that natural immunity only lasts 6 months and vaccination immunity lasts like 8 months (for Pfizer at least. Moderna probably a little bit longer, unsure how much longer though). Either way, you need a round to re-up your immune system. A lot of these Delta cases are "breakthroughs", in vaccinated populations... or reinfections (ie: in already infected populations) For example: South Dakota was someth…

Natural immunity doesn’t only last 6 months. Where did you get that?

I’m coming out of my second COVID infection now. Long story short, I was in the local hospital and the fact that this was my second infection caused a really big hubbub in the COVID ward and a nurse told me I was the first reinfection she has seen.

Re: Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers

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Post by AndrewBissell »

nostromo wrote: post #9

> but vaccine hesitancy — particularly among white Republicans This sort of quip really makes me distrust NPR. White people are more vaccinated than blacks or Latinos, but the journalist couldn't help but try to throw in a dunk on their favorite bogeyman. https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-p...

When Joe Rogan said he had taken ivermectin as part of his Covid treatment, NPR put out a tweet saying he took "a deworming drug for cows that the FDA warns people should not ingest." It's a dishonest propaganda outfit funded by money from billionaire foundations.

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Post by Darmody »

nostromo wrote: post #9

> but vaccine hesitancy — particularly among white Republicans This sort of quip really makes me distrust NPR. White people are more vaccinated than blacks or Latinos, but the journalist couldn't help but try to throw in a dunk on their favorite bogeyman. https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-p...

The agenda won't push itself.

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Post by hunterb123 »

dragontamer wrote: post #13
francis-io wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you risk side effects (which are really low, but do exist) if you already have antibodies? Is argue you do "lose something" if you get a vaccine after having recovered from covid.

Because we know that natural immunity only lasts 6 months and vaccination immunity lasts like 8 months (for Pfizer at least. Moderna probably a little bit longer, unsure how much longer though). Either way, you need a round to re-up your immune system. A lot of these Delta cases are "breakthroughs", in vaccinated populations... or reinfections (ie: in already infected populations) For example: South Dakota was someth…

That's incorrect, natural immunity will last many years. Your antibody levels do go down but your body remembers how to make more. Vaccine immunity does seem to need booster shots.

Re: Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers

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Post by LatteLazy »

woodpanel wrote: post #15

Regardless of where you stand with this policy, you gotta give it some Kudos: It's a very efficient way to cleanse your entire bureaucracy of doubters. I can't think of another example where a democratic republic, which by definition includes a spectrum of opinions, has its whole bureaucratic hierarchy re-aligned with the ruling party's platform. Maybe this is due to the fact, that this is inherently undemocratic?

If the only difference between political opinion is whether you get vaccinated or not, you're already a monoculture.

The people being "cleansed" here are the crazies (of any political flavour).

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Post by twa999 »

nostromo wrote: post #9

> but vaccine hesitancy — particularly among white Republicans This sort of quip really makes me distrust NPR. White people are more vaccinated than blacks or Latinos, but the journalist couldn't help but try to throw in a dunk on their favorite bogeyman. https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-p...

you're not supposed to say that. you're also not supposed to report why that is.

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Post by [deleted] »

nostromo wrote: post #9

> but vaccine hesitancy — particularly among white Republicans This sort of quip really makes me distrust NPR. White people are more vaccinated than blacks or Latinos, but the journalist couldn't help but try to throw in a dunk on their favorite bogeyman. https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-p...

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Re: Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers

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Post by benbayard »

nostromo wrote: post #9

> but vaccine hesitancy — particularly among white Republicans This sort of quip really makes me distrust NPR. White people are more vaccinated than blacks or Latinos, but the journalist couldn't help but try to throw in a dunk on their favorite bogeyman. https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/percent-of-total-p...

As a percent, you may be correct (your chart does not show a breakdown by party). In sheer volume, you're definitely incorrect, however.

Re: Biden to mandate coronavirus vaccine for federal workers

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Post by core-utility »

unchocked wrote: post #11

Good. There is no better use of state power than ensuring public health. Supreme Court resolved this in 1905 w/r/t smallpox.

And where does the line for public "health" get drawn? Who draws it, the ruling party in power? Everything is health based if you want it to be.
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