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Re: Media trust hits new low

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Post by zepto »

i5heu wrote: post #14
zepto wrote: post #10

> How it works: Media outlets can continue to report reliable facts, but that won't turn the trend around on its own. What's needed is for trusted institutions to visibly embrace the news media. This is an extremely weird and disturbing conclusion. Orwellian even. What’s needed is for news organizations to not only report facts, but stop telling stories in ways that only benefit their own ideological systems. That’s…

It is not Orwellian. It is a net of trust.

It seems Orwellian to me to have CEOs in general in some arrangement to lend trust to the media. The incentives for any kind of accountability would seem to be even worse than they are today.

What do you mean by a ‘net of trust’?

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Post by GCA10 »

web-cowboy wrote: post #4

Anyone know of efforts to fix this space? Looking for a good excuse to quit my well paid corporate job and make a difference. News today is: - Infotainment - Tribal reinforcement - Irrelevant - Not actionable (and thus, depressing) - Making people think the world is getting worse - Immediate and not well thought out or nuanced In some ways it's their fault, but on the other hand, the modern reader won't pay for news.…

I've been impressed with what News Literacy Project is doing, particularly in terms of helping high school students recognize the hallmarks of carefully researched material vs. the opposite. https://newslit.org/

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Post by tbrownaw »

Um, no. You gain people's trust by being consistently worthy of trust.

This article seems to think that trust is it's own fungible but inconvertible substance (the media has lost theirs, so someone else needs to give them some), rather than something that derives from an objective reality.

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Post by foepys »

anovikov wrote: post #20

Why should MASS media be trusted? They exist to make money and they are free to use. How in the world they can be anything but a manipulation (which includes but not limited to, just simply a distraction)? If you need real news, use Bloomberg, AP, Reuters... Yeah that's $1500 per month, and even more importantly, they are too boring to read for an average person, so they wouldn't be popular even if they were free. Pe…

Your comment makes no sense.

On the one hand you blame "MASS media" (whatever that is to you) and on the other you advocate to use AP and Reuters, where most media outlets get large chunks of their news from. AP and Reuters exist so others, often smaller, media companies don't have to do intensive research into everyday news. If something is a target for manipulation, it's AP, Reuters, and similar.

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Post by busymom0 »

I stopped following corporate news 2 years ago and started paying for independent creators and journalists instead on Substack and Locals. I follow substack, locals and other communities of of Glenn Greenwald, Viva Frei and Robert Barnes, Kim Iverson, Steven Crowder mug club, Jimmy Dore, Matt Taibbi, Aaron Mate, Michael Tracey, Alison Morrow, Sharyl Attkinson.

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Post by GCA10 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #5

This article doesn't even remotely go where you think it would if you're going off the headline and your preconceptions. Ends up as > CEOs have long put themselves forward as the people able to upgrade America's physical infrastructure. Now it's time for them to use the trust they've built up to help rebuild our civic infrastructure. Who's trusting most CEOs? Being charitable, I guess people are trusting people who a…

Bear in mind this article's primary source (data, interpretation, calls to action, etc.) is Edelman, a global PR firm. Quoting from the tagline on Edelman's own website, its mission is to "partner with businesses and organizations to evolve, promote and protect their brands and reputations. "

The survey data itself sounds plausible, and I've got no immediate reason to question the numbers. But when it comes to interpretation and next steps, Edelman very much has a point of view that predates whatever the data has found.

Re: Media trust hits new low

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Post by Natsu »

zepto wrote: post #21
i5heu wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not Orwellian. It is a net of trust.

It seems Orwellian to me to have CEOs in general in some arrangement to lend trust to the media. The incentives for any kind of accountability would seem to be even worse than they are today. What do you mean by a ‘net of trust’?

I know how to fix this. Whenever you get a survey on this, tell them you completely trust them to tell you the truth no matter what.

Then the graphs will look great. Problem solved!

Re: Media trust hits new low

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Post by BuyMyBitcoins »

wyager wrote: post #6

> Faith in society's central institutions, especially in government and the media, is the glue that holds society together. Perhaps people are starting to think that having media as a “central institution” is not actually good for society.

“Journalism is essential to Democracy! Trust us, we tell you the truth and you need us. ” -Journalists.

Even George Washington had trouble with the press and lamented how often he was maligned and misrepresented in the papers.

“He regarded the press as a disuniting, "diabolical" force of falsehoods, sentiments that he expressed in his Farewell Address.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington and the citation is from a book.

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