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Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Re: Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

mint2 wrote: post #7
thepasswordis wrote: post #2

Ah yes, and now they'll move to an even more permissive platform which cares even less what they think. Oh, and wouldn't you know: those more permissive platforms are also where actual white nationalists, racists, and violent extremists hang out. Just an absolutely pathetic, counterproductive, downright stupid decision on behalf of reddit.

How is it so clearly a bad thing to quarantine extremism and misinformation to dark corners rather than allow them to be in a more easily stumbled upon location by non-extremists or not yet extremists that are somewhat susceptible to falling down that rabbit hole if exposed?

Glad to know we finally found the final arbiter of what exactly is "extremism and misinformation"! This will make governing the people so much easier now!

Re: Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

lp0_on_fire wrote: post #20
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit wants to be somewhat decentralized and offload many of it's labor to users who provided it with free content. — This is the other side of it, I suppose. And yes, I mean that the boycots were organized by those in control of those subreddits.

That might be what reddit wants not but if they decide to go public they'll have to convince shareholders why it's a good idea to leave the keys to the kingdom in the hands of a bunch of anonymous non-employees.

“Free labor” makes the nether regions of many a businessman turn tropical.

Re: Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Post by guilhas »

The "protest", most of those subreddits have the same mods which are removing thousands of submissions every day. And in those "protest" posts they removed hundreds of comments of people disagreeing

92 of top 500 subreddits controlled by same 5 people https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23173018

Also theverge.com disabled comments on this article in particular. Wonder why...

So much for open debate, reddit by now is conversation conditioning machine for any topic that gets attention, banning anything that disagrees, and leaving bots and banal discussion

Let's just hope they have alienated enough people to get more traction on other platforms

Re: Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Post by glonq »

mycodesucks wrote: post #12
beebmam wrote: post #11

It is not legal (and should not be legal) for people to force privately owned companies to publish speech that those companies don't want to publish. Hacker News itself does this all the time; there's plenty of topics and conversations that aren't allowed to be posted here. And people get banned/silenced all the time. And that's good! That's what healthy moderation looks like.

Reddit is the opposite of what good moderation looks like.

Wish I could gift you a platinum award for this plus 3 months of ycombinator gold /s

Re: Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Post by sinecure »

Reddit's procedure for communities that go against any mainstream progressive narrative is to quarantine them and then ban them under the accusation of "brigading".

They have essentially trimmed all alternative thought or discussion from the website and turned places like /r/news, which used to be a moderate and balanced place of discussion, into a completely one-sided echo chamber of modern progressive politics.

The part I find most humorous is I only discovered /r/NoNewNormal this morning and found the posts there to be genuinely kind hearted, open to rational discussion, welcoming and positive. Yet they were obliterated hours later and are now being described by media outlets as evil anti-vaccine bullies. It must be nice to wield the power to delete your ideological enemies in one stroke and then get to describe them however you want across 10 media outlets without chance for rebuttal, debate, or explanation.

Re: Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Post by powerslacker »

kinghajj wrote: post #19

"Witnesses report hearing noises emanating from the grave of one Aaron Swartz." I know this conversation has happened numerous times on HN by now, but at times like this I can't help but speak up. Although I have matured over the past decade, no longer the "Ron Paul" libertarian of my college days, and I understand the nuances w.r.t large public platforms facilitating misinformation; there still exists a part in me t…

Right there with you. Aaron was basically a martyr for the cause of bringing free access of information to the common person. To see a huge part of his life's work trampled under the feet of an internet mob in the name of corporate interest is a disgrace.

Re: Reddit bans anti-vaccine subreddit r/NoNewNormal after site-wide protest

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Post by petermcneeley »

beebmam wrote: post #11

It is not legal (and should not be legal) for people to force privately owned companies to publish speech that those companies don't want to publish. Hacker News itself does this all the time; there's plenty of topics and conversations that aren't allowed to be posted here. And people get banned/silenced all the time. And that's good! That's what healthy moderation looks like.

I dont think this article questions if this is legal. Many companies do things that are Legal but are perhaps unethical or just not aligned with consumer interests.

Your focus on legality to me is completely irrelevant at this stage. People want to discuss if this decision was a good idea or bad idea.

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