> with rear exhaust temperatures around 3 to 5 degrees higher Is that C or F? I'm going to assume Fahrenheit. Also, is that bad? In other words, did they measure the rest of the unit to see if it was hotter or cooler? Maybe they've directed more heat to the exhaust. Which is the whole point, after all.
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#22Consoles have design lifetimes, and thermals are part of the computation that helps you figure out if your components are going to last as long as the warranty. Obviously, if you run a chip hot, its service life will be reduced. So companies develop models that tell them how long things like the SOC (main chip with CPU, etc.) will last for a given temperature and use frequency, and whether or not they've got a 1-year…
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#23“I don’t think there’s any argument that this is a worse console, at least for thermals and for cooling,” says Evans. Worst quote they coulda pulled. Literally sends the opposite message than the one its meant to convey. Unless im even worse at english than i thought.
Edit: wrote his name wrong.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, this generation of consoles are much more power hungry than their predecessors (you can just see that in their designs). PS5 draws like ~220W from the wall, Series X draws like 200+. The 360 draws like ~120W.
Does the power usage scale with resolution? Do games have "run at 1080p vs 4K but cooler/less power" option?
About 12 years ago I would use a lava lamp screen saver on my Linux machine. Out of curiosity, I measured the power draw of my computer idling with a blank screen and with the lava lamp animation. The animation was drawing something like 30 watts whereas a physical lava lamp uses a 25 watt bulb.
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#25> with rear exhaust temperatures around 3 to 5 degrees higher Is that C or F? I'm going to assume Fahrenheit. Also, is that bad? In other words, did they measure the rest of the unit to see if it was hotter or cooler? Maybe they've directed more heat to the exhaust. Which is the whole point, after all.
It's C. In terms of if it's bad? shrug . With a smaller heat sink, the chips are almost certainly going to be hotter (dunno how much.. at least 3-5 degrees, maybe up to 10?). Does that matter? Tech youtubers love to emphasize cooling - which is fair, I think it's important, but I also think it's overdone. From the end-user standpoint, the question is does this meaningfully increase the rate that their unit thermal th…
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's C. In terms of if it's bad? shrug . With a smaller heat sink, the chips are almost certainly going to be hotter (dunno how much.. at least 3-5 degrees, maybe up to 10?). Does that matter? Tech youtubers love to emphasize cooling - which is fair, I think it's important, but I also think it's overdone. From the end-user standpoint, the question is does this meaningfully increase the rate that their unit thermal th…
I think for the end user the primary concern is not performance, but the potential fan noise. If the performance goes up or down, end users might not even notice, but if the fan is constantly kicking in and being too loud too often, more people will be concerned.
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#28> with rear exhaust temperatures around 3 to 5 degrees higher Is that C or F? I'm going to assume Fahrenheit. Also, is that bad? In other words, did they measure the rest of the unit to see if it was hotter or cooler? Maybe they've directed more heat to the exhaust. Which is the whole point, after all.
People more experienced say measuring exhaust temperature is not enough to determine if it's cooling better or worse, measurements need to be made internally.
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#29> with rear exhaust temperatures around 3 to 5 degrees higher Is that C or F? I'm going to assume Fahrenheit. Also, is that bad? In other words, did they measure the rest of the unit to see if it was hotter or cooler? Maybe they've directed more heat to the exhaust. Which is the whole point, after all.
It's centigrade. The video does all measurements in metric (weight in grams too). Anyway it's pretty common for consumer electronics people to talk in centigrade.
It's common for people to talk in centigrade. Fahrenheit is only used in the US, some dependencies and similar (like Liberia), so the vast majority of people on Earth talk in C.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's C. In terms of if it's bad? shrug . With a smaller heat sink, the chips are almost certainly going to be hotter (dunno how much.. at least 3-5 degrees, maybe up to 10?). Does that matter? Tech youtubers love to emphasize cooling - which is fair, I think it's important, but I also think it's overdone. From the end-user standpoint, the question is does this meaningfully increase the rate that their unit thermal th…
I would argue it's technically a difference in °K not °C.
https://sciencenotes.org/why-there-is-no-degree-in-kelvin-te...