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Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Agreed. It seems like a great way to turn your web browser into an abstraction of an operating system.

but this is what apple originally intended, just phones weren't powerful enough at the time. later firefoxOS did exactly that. and it worked well. its only weak part was the lack of apps in the market.

Has too much time passed for FirefoxOS to become viable again? The latest moves by Apple seems to be changing public sentiment .

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Sounds like the slowest, most bloated way possible to design a calculator that runs on a phone.

Agreed. It seems like a great way to turn your web browser into an abstraction of an operating system.

That’s more or less where browsers are (or are heading rapidly). It’s dumb and terrible and has all sorts of issues: but it’s also cheap and easy, and often that’s good enough.

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28323688 Linking this here from the other thread, because the above comment cites the actual court documents, which clear up a lot of confusion I'm seeing on this thread. Apple's concession only applies to communications outside of the app using contact information obtained outside of the app . (Which, yes, was somehow disallowed before.) If your user signed up through the app? To…

is it? I think that it is saying that you can now use info obtained in-app to contact someone about other payment methods (if you ask permission first)

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This is the worst tech news headline I’ve ever seen. The change the article is referring to is allowing developers to refer to non-IAP payments in communication with users outside the app (the fact that this was disallowed before blows my mind). This does absolutely nothing to change the in-app anti-steering rules Apple has.

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Re: Apple will let developers accept payment outside App Store

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Not exactly. Developers were free to take outside payments for apps. Developers were forbidden from linking or talking about this from within the app. On their on website was OK. This change lets developers tell their customer about outside payments from within the app. From what I gather, apps are still required to accept Apple Pay if they offer any type of in-app purchase. And apps that do not work without an outsi…

Based on the news release from Apple it looks like developers still aren't allowed to link to this from inside the app. It only allows for out of app communications (like email)?

> It only allows for out of app communications (like email)?

That's not new.

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There is already legislation in process that would do a hell of a lot more than this change including giving vendors the ability to sell entirely via their own store. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/11/bipartisan-bill-targets-appl... If lawmakers are already going to give you 200% of what you originally asked for why on earth would you settle for half?

Because even in the best case scenario, you’d have to wait a half decade before getting that supposed 200%.

That’s assuming it passes at all. A bill must get actually passed by both houses of congress and signed into law by the president. Until then, it’s vaporware.

And then, once a bill is passed, someone has to enforce it, and that enforcement likely has to work its way through the court system.

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I guess epic games just won?

No, this is unrelated

This is not the epic case, but now couldn’t epic direct users of fortnite to add credits to their account on epic’s website and bypass the apple tax, which is part of what epic wants out of their case?
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