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Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

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Heroku and Zimki are fundamentally different. We quickly evolved into a Polyglot product, with wonderful primitives and invented a nice interface for extension, namely buildpacks and our add-OBS market.

There were lots of examples of companies doing things Zimki did, most WebObjects projects felt that way IMO.

Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

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Simon Wardley has continued to evolve and refine the insights that led him to conceiving Zimki, and it is well worth any tech entrepreneur's time to take a look at the current iteration of "Wardley Mapping" to better understand how technologies (and platforms) evolve: https://learnwardleymapping.com/book/ If Blank and Ries transformed our understanding of startup tactics , Wardley is improving our understanding of st…

I have to admit, while I like Wardley mapping, the fact that someone talks about his own (seemingly) failed technology revolution in hindsight, makes me a bit sceptic.

Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

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> " One of the very first PaaS offerings in history actually belonged to Canon ... until it was abruptly killed by Canon itself" There are dozens of examples of people being first to market and not winning (Canon). As so, what's so interesting about this article? - Facebook won, when MySpace and others were first to market - Google won, and it was crazy late to market over Yahoo/Altavista/Excite. - Starbucks won, whe…

> Facebook won, when MySpace and others were first to market Facebook had a valuable userbase and a polished product (it looked good, no templates and music on auto-play) > Google won, and it was crazy late to market over Yahoo/Altavista/Excite. Google had a better product, plain simple. > Starbucks won, when plenty of other national coffee chains existed Starbucks won partly because it had "Italian coffee". Nobody e…

Starbucks won because they recreated a friendly living room.

I always felt their coffee sucked, but their employees have always been nice, and friendly.

I enjoyed getting out, people watching, and feeling zero pressure to buy anything, or leave.

(I've noticed slight changes, like codes to the bathroom, but it's still my favorite place to hang. American perspective.)

Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

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> " One of the very first PaaS offerings in history actually belonged to Canon ... until it was abruptly killed by Canon itself" There are dozens of examples of people being first to market and not winning (Canon). As so, what's so interesting about this article? - Facebook won, when MySpace and others were first to market - Google won, and it was crazy late to market over Yahoo/Altavista/Excite. - Starbucks won, whe…

What's an example of being first to market and winning a big market? I can't think of any. First to market isn't the advantage that people think it is. It might be more important for smaller markets, perhaps.

Intel for personal computer? It seems that Intel 8008/8080 based (hobby) PCs were very early one. Intel is the king for PC market until recently (so about 50 years?), but they are now losing market by ARM and AMD.

Though maybe Intel didn't intended 8008/8080 is used for personal computer.

Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

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I interviewed with them (I knew a few people there) and had an interesting half-hour discussion with Mr Wardley about the implications of wide-spread availability of 3D printers (he had a 3D printed model of an XBOX controller) - little did we know it would be nearly another decade before they were becoming widely available.

[edit: also one of the best technical interviews I had. They sat me down with a Mac and a list of stuff to do and left me alone for, I think, an hour to work through them as best I could. No restrictions on looking stuff up, no gotcha questions, no algorithm implementations, etc.]

Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

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> " One of the very first PaaS offerings in history actually belonged to Canon ... until it was abruptly killed by Canon itself" There are dozens of examples of people being first to market and not winning (Canon). As so, what's so interesting about this article? - Facebook won, when MySpace and others were first to market - Google won, and it was crazy late to market over Yahoo/Altavista/Excite. - Starbucks won, whe…

What's an example of being first to market and winning a big market? I can't think of any. First to market isn't the advantage that people think it is. It might be more important for smaller markets, perhaps.

? A classical "the winner takes it all" business.

Example: ebay

Counterexample: Flight booking

Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

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Simon Wardley has continued to evolve and refine the insights that led him to conceiving Zimki, and it is well worth any tech entrepreneur's time to take a look at the current iteration of "Wardley Mapping" to better understand how technologies (and platforms) evolve: https://learnwardleymapping.com/book/ If Blank and Ries transformed our understanding of startup tactics , Wardley is improving our understanding of st…

I have to admit, while I like Wardley mapping, the fact that someone talks about his own (seemingly) failed technology revolution in hindsight, makes me a bit sceptic.

I find just as many lessons in failures as success, although these are pretty arbitrary labels. Even the greatest success stories are littered with small failures overcome or even ignored.

Re: Zimki, the world's first Platform as a Service that belonged to Canon

#30

I interviewed with them (I knew a few people there) and had an interesting half-hour discussion with Mr Wardley about the implications of wide-spread availability of 3D printers (he had a 3D printed model of an XBOX controller) - little did we know it would be nearly another decade before they were becoming widely available. [edit: also one of the best technical interviews I had. They sat me down with a Mac and a lis…

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