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Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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post #18

I am happy on Mac, but MS should just ship WinXP with service pack 4 and 5 and then charge money for it. Backport whatever backend tech is needed and sell it as an ultra performance version of windows.

Apple's guilty of these kind of tactics too, it's extremely galling to get a "Try the New Safari!" notification if you run another browser[1].

1: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/153379/how-do-you-...

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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post #6

The designers of the "settings" screens in Windows should be utterly embarrassed. They are pathetically useless, especially when compared to their predecessors apps like the MMC.

They also take disturbingly long to load, and every interaction is noticeably delayed. At least in Win10 you can compare how long they take, since it has both. I don't think I've ever had to wait for Control Panel to load on every version of Windows prior to 10, but Settings needs a loading screen . The responsible monstrosity is none other than UWP, which also added a loading screen to the Calculator.

I always found it wild that reading an ebook in the UWP Kobo app on my quad core, 16GB RAM laptop with a SSD is a slower worse experience than using a 1GHz single core eInk reader with a microSD card for storage. Legitimately takes it longer to load the same book.

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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I'm curious if this really helps them retain a measurable number of users. Basically, Edge is as good as Chrome (each has minor improvements/features that are not present in the other one), so I don't see that the average user would want to change it without a good reason. The only reason for change would be if they want to take advantage of Chrome sync to their existing profile, or use Chromecast, in which case I do…

You can cast to a Chromecast from Microsoft Edge.

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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I'm curious if this really helps them retain a measurable number of users. Basically, Edge is as good as Chrome (each has minor improvements/features that are not present in the other one), so I don't see that the average user would want to change it without a good reason. The only reason for change would be if they want to take advantage of Chrome sync to their existing profile, or use Chromecast, in which case I do…

The only reason I use Edge is because that it's basically the best free PDF reader/annotation tool I found for light study. I'd love to switch to another one if there is a better choice

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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post #8

Windows 7 with Media Center was the best Windows. All went downhill from there. I just wish that somehow Microsoft messed up so badly that Windows for desktop goes the way of Windows Mobile. What's that, you ask? Exactly.

Windows 2000 was my personal favorite. Modern (for its time), lightweight, stable, and the UI didn't get in your way. It took the good things learned since the Windows 95 and pruned the not-so-good ones. I think that was peak Windows.

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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post #5

Microsoft need to be sued again so they resume making a good windows version again. When I was on Win8 I was hoping Win10 would make me want to get rid of it. Instead it made me want to go back to Win7 (or rather, go Win7 for the first time, I skipped straight from XP to Win8) Now I am "stuck" on Win7 hoping Win11 will fix Win10 issues but... MS seemly is dead set on making them WORSE instead.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-fined-731m-by-eu-in-...

According to Microsoft best $731m ever spend.

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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post #2

How do the product managers and engineers who implement these blatantly user-hostile changes justify them?

Here's a scenario, VP behind edge demands increase in Microsofts browser usage, directors below set it as an objective to their product managers who want to get their bonus or promotion end of the quarter. They come up with ideas on how to achieve it. Some are quite stupid, probably way worse than any that see the light of day (like the ones described here). Then some just make it through and here we are.

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

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I've noticed several times that periodically (maybe triggered by updates), the Settings app will have a pop-up asking me to finish configuring Windows 10. In my case, the only "steps" that I have not completed are:

- being subscribed to Office 365,

- having Bing as my default search engine

- having Edge as my default browser.

Needless to say, I find this an abuse of the Settings app.

Re: Switching from Microsoft Edge gets more annoying in Windows 11

#30

I'm curious if this really helps them retain a measurable number of users. Basically, Edge is as good as Chrome (each has minor improvements/features that are not present in the other one), so I don't see that the average user would want to change it without a good reason. The only reason for change would be if they want to take advantage of Chrome sync to their existing profile, or use Chromecast, in which case I do…

For a user that doesn't prefer any product, the mere annoyance of Win 10's prompts can be reason enough.
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