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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#21

No Linux? No Windows? No 32-bit? No thank you.

This makes me feel rickrolled. I clicked and only see a Mac version download link. The title should mention the platform if it's single-platform.

In fact I even have a Mac but it's High Sierra and I'm not updating to Big Sur with all the questionable changes just to try a new browser.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#22
To the people saying $15 is too much: SigmaOS is almost certainly targeting companies, not individual users.

If this makes employees save 30 minutes per month, it's worth it for the company.

Speaking of browser-related productivity, I recently learned about this very useful Chrome shortcut that allows you to search among your open tabs: ctrl-shift-A (windows), command-shift-A (macOS)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#23
post #16

Absolutely no chance I'm paying $15/mo for a browser without: - Extensions - Adblock - No support for CMD+W (?)

Good points!

We're working on extensions and Adblock right now, so should be out soon!

For CMD-W, we're trying to change how you think about pages to something you "mark as done" as opposed to just "close", and changing the shortcut helps make that change for users.

Try it out and let me know if you think it's necessary to support CMD-W :)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No source code? No tech details? No reason to trust you with my browsing? For all I know, this could be MITM'ing my sessions and exfiltrating my data. Being a paid product gives me exactly one guarantee: that I will be that much poorer. It doesn't increase my trust in the product in any way, it doesn't say anything about what the product is doing for my privacy or security. This is a very poor marketing piece. > Wond…

Can't change your mind on that. I can only tell you that your session data is yours alone, and that we will never monetise our users' data. Free browsers typically make their money from search engine royalties. Users will only pay us if they think the value we're giving them is worth it, and that will keep us developing the product towards what users will benefit from, faster than traditional browsers.

But it appears that Apple already stole your thunder on consumer privacy, and that they will be Very Hard to catch up to; private relay is basically TOR lite for grandma, private email is email aliases that ordinary users can use, etc.

Plus no discussion on ad blocking extensions or password management?

If this is a browser that is launching on Apple’s ecosystem while charging $$, then you have to swing harder than just vaguely insinuating that other companies are sellouts on privacy.

And is there any plan to open source so that communities can actually vet anything?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#26
A subscription model for a browser seems like a very, very niche market to me - but then that's the vim angle.

For me, hard to justify $15 for a relativity feature-lite browser. You would need a stronger value proposition.

I think most of these features can be reproduced for free on any other browser. Split view is neat but I do that already with chrome and spectacle, both free.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#27
post #7

15$ a month is a ton of money. I'd prefer 50$ one time if possible. The other issue is I simply don't know y'all. You could be keylogging everything for all I know. Even now I tend to use Chrome for secure browsing and Brave for AdBlocked browsing

If your income is based on productivity, especially micro optimizations in productivity (decidedly not the case for employees, but perhaps for contractors and freelancers), it might be worth it.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#28
post #7

15$ a month is a ton of money. I'd prefer 50$ one time if possible. The other issue is I simply don't know y'all. You could be keylogging everything for all I know. Even now I tend to use Chrome for secure browsing and Brave for AdBlocked browsing

Fair point, can't convince you we're trustworthy just by telling you, but I can still say it anyways :P

We don't use keyloggers. We don't sell your data.

If we did, it would be a breach of our privacy policy and you could sue us, right? (Don't know if I should be suggesting you sue us, but since you won't have a reason to, think we're safe :p)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No source code? No tech details? No reason to trust you with my browsing? For all I know, this could be MITM'ing my sessions and exfiltrating my data. Being a paid product gives me exactly one guarantee: that I will be that much poorer. It doesn't increase my trust in the product in any way, it doesn't say anything about what the product is doing for my privacy or security. This is a very poor marketing piece. > Wond…

Can't change your mind on that. I can only tell you that your session data is yours alone, and that we will never monetise our users' data. Free browsers typically make their money from search engine royalties. Users will only pay us if they think the value we're giving them is worth it, and that will keep us developing the product towards what users will benefit from, faster than traditional browsers.

> and that we will never monetise our users' data.

This is already telling; you're admitting that you gather user's data. Is there a clear consent form for that in place? Does your application and your company's data handling conform to GDPR rules?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#30
post #9

No Linux? No Windows? No 32-bit? No thank you.

> No 32-bit? What's the market share for this one ?

At the moment, older model Raspberry Pi's and other ARM-based devices - everything else has moved on to 64 bits already. I don't think 32 bits needs to be supported anymore for consumer applications.
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