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Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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> According to the complaint, authorities in Pakistan invited various companies to submit proposals, including Motorola, Nokia, and Huawei This sounds surprising, are Motorola and Nokia really in the police IT systems business? The common factor among the 3 companies seems to be that they make mobile phone related things.

Not surprising at all, Motorola still is a market leader for EMS/Police Radios.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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post #8

> According to the complaint, authorities in Pakistan invited various companies to submit proposals, including Motorola, Nokia, and Huawei This sounds surprising, are Motorola and Nokia really in the police IT systems business? The common factor among the 3 companies seems to be that they make mobile phone related things.

At least Motorola is a vendor for German police wireless network TETRA: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#Infr...

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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>Huawei also began to use one of BES’s software systems to establish a 'backdoor' from China into Pakistan that allowed Huawei to collect and view data important to Pakistan’s national security and other private, personal data on Pakistani citizens."

Apart from propaganda value of trying to drive wedge between PRC and Pakistan, is this suite suggesting Huawei... didn't have capability to collect info prior to 2017? Also how does a California based company expect to extract any payment from an US sanctioned Huawei, not much leverage now that they are forced to de-americanize. Or that US labelled telecom tech dual-use, and stealing military tech is totally fair game. Huawei had to settle with CISCO to enter US market, but AVIC isn't worried over using stolen F35 plans on J20. Seems like a very futile suit apart from geopolitcal factors.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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With Huawei behaving this way can we trust our electronic devices made in China? Are there devices purely made in South Korea or Taiwan?

(Note I don’t say this with some kind of anti-China sentiment, I’m pretty sure I’d be worried about the NSA back-dooring everything too if it was made in the US).

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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post #2

Ha! Is this news to them? Of course they would not honor a contract they can ignore. You can put as many contracts and multiple factors and audit trails as you want, if they want your trade secrets and you do a venture with them, I guess be happy for the short term money, but your IP will be gone.

I think this about Intel using TSMC as a foundry - why TSMC want to help their biggest competitor become more competitive and learn from your business dealings I don’t know…

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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post #23

>Huawei also began to use one of BES’s software systems to establish a 'backdoor' from China into Pakistan that allowed Huawei to collect and view data important to Pakistan’s national security and other private, personal data on Pakistani citizens." Apart from propaganda value of trying to drive wedge between PRC and Pakistan, is this suite suggesting Huawei... didn't have capability to collect info prior to 2017? A…

From the article:

""Backdoor" may not be the right term, though it's difficult to be certain without knowing the details of the system's technical architecture. In the complaint, the term is used to describe a duplicate of the PSCA's DES running on servers based in a Huawei facility in Suzhou, China. Whether that copy arises from a covert remote access capability or an overt replication option under indifferent or permissive security policy isn't clear."

So zero evidence of a backdoor.

> Apart from propaganda value of trying to drive wedge between PRC and Pakistan. ... Seems like a very futile suit apart from geopolitcal factors.

That's exactly how it reads for me as well.

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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post #8

> According to the complaint, authorities in Pakistan invited various companies to submit proposals, including Motorola, Nokia, and Huawei This sounds surprising, are Motorola and Nokia really in the police IT systems business? The common factor among the 3 companies seems to be that they make mobile phone related things.

At least Motorola is a vendor for German police wireless network TETRA: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrestrial_Trunked_Radio#Infr...

They provide the UK police radio system too [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airwave_Solutions

Re: Huawei stole our tech and created a 'backdoor' to spy on Pakistan, claims IT biz

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post #18

Given the current state of affairs it’s hard not to assume this is just another piece of anti-Huawei propaganda.

Couldn’t agree more. The only backdoors ever found in Huawei equipment were those installed by the NSA themselves.

[1] ”… even as the United States made a public case about the dangers of buying from Huawei, classified documents show that the National Security Agency was creating its own back doors — directly into Huawei’s networks.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/world/asia/nsa-breached-c...

[2] “…an even bigger concern is that with the growing ubiquity of Huawei products, the NSA's own surveillance network could grow dark in areas where the equipment is used.

For that reason, as the latest Snowden revelations showed last week, the spy agency reportedly hacked Huawei as part of an operation launched in 2007. The plan involved stealing source code for some of Huawei's products in the hope of finding vulnerabilities. Such security holes could allow the NSA to exploit the products and spy on traffic in countries where Huawei equipment is used -- such as Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kenya, and Cuba.”

https://www.wired.com/2014/03/how-huawei-became-nsa-nightmar...

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