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TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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I'm really curious if China will go after bytedance next in its crackdown. My guess would be no. Alibaba, Tencent, DiDi, Meituan all are either local champions that have no competitive advantage overseas - and thus does not help China's growth. But TikTok actually represents that China might have a competitive advantage in deep learning algos that takes massive amount of data - therefore it would be spare from crackd…

Alibaba, Tencent, Didi, all have lots of AI and ML/DS experience

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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The march away from language continues. Facial expressions may be a rich form of communication but the kinds of ideas you can communicate with them are severely restricted. Literacy was hard won and now it seems like we're letting it go. Then again, maybe I'm just too old to understand.

Literacy will always have its place. Short, meme centered, entertainment isn’t one of them I suppose.

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TikTok is probably the best social media app, the only problem is the terrible search function. It doesn't have the sorting and filters that youtube does, fixing this one thing would make it so much more useful to me...

What makes it good other than being addictive? If social media is defined by "sharing ideas with other people" is TikTok even social media? Or is it more like Netflix?

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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The march away from language continues. Facial expressions may be a rich form of communication but the kinds of ideas you can communicate with them are severely restricted. Literacy was hard won and now it seems like we're letting it go. Then again, maybe I'm just too old to understand.

I'm just getting tired of seeing SHOCKED faces everywhere. Clearly, exaggerated faces lead to video views but I'm growing so averse to seeing it.

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I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time.

The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and protectionist.

I guess by now everyone has heard of their legendary discovery algorithm so I'm not going there but recently I noticed that some of my favourite creators from the Youtube etc. are on TikTok and their material is much nicer to consume there. Why? I think this is because of the short and fast phased nature of the TikTok content. Instead of publishing 10 to 30 min videos(AFAIK Youtube encourages that, it is also good for the revenue), they put together a short video that shows the gist of the subject. They will also be much more responsive, quickly replying with short videos to the comments. It's a very dynamic place.

One exception for me is Nile Red, I love watching his 40 min chemistry videos. Actually, there are a few more YouTubers who's content works best on YouTube but I'm watching far less and I have more spare time now.

Maybe the medium is the message still holds? Maybe people are now ready to hear the message of the TikTok?

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I figured I would be dragged kicking and screaming into using TikTok. At first it was my youngest friends, then my same-age friends, and now my older family members. Really Uncle Steve? It's fine, I like to be in the know, but I will continue to draw my line at SnapChat.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Pro TikTok take. It's easier and friendlier to consume. The algorithm is good at tailoring interests. But, it's more like TV than FB.

I don't use it, but it looks so painful to me. I couldn't imagine having to 'stage' my life so frequently for the temporary enjoyment of people I do and don't know.

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Pro TikTok take. It's easier and friendlier to consume. The algorithm is good at tailoring interests. But, it's more like TV than FB.

It’s also much more positive.

If I spend 20 minutes on TikTok I usually laugh and smile a few times. And regularly I’m impressed at human creativity.

20 minutes on Instagram or Facebook is usually either boring or leaves me comparing myself to others.

20 minutes on YouTube and I feel like I’ve watched 10 minutes of ads and 10 minutes of fluff.

20 minutes on Reddit and I hate the world.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Remember, though, social media giants are monopolists and it's impossible to compete against them.

This isn't really small startups competing, though. It's a state sponsored/backed entity with more goals than just disrupting the market.

Unless you say that Chinese government is forcing appstores to fake numbers, then it's not relevant. Products with great market fit can get infinite amount of money from VC and other investors.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

#30

Pro TikTok take. It's easier and friendlier to consume. The algorithm is good at tailoring interests. But, it's more like TV than FB.

I don't use it, but it looks so painful to me. I couldn't imagine having to 'stage' my life so frequently for the temporary enjoyment of people I do and don't know.

So...don't post? Every platform has (read: is primarily) lurkers.
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