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My debloating experience with Poco F3

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Re: My debloating experience with Poco F3

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Post by southerntofu »

morsch wrote: post #8
lostmsu wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had lots of luck with https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki on Mi Max 3. In general any recent phone should work with these ROMs. On Mi Max 3 it works perfectly with only a few tweaks after flashing. https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/issues/1... This one, and one more for Bluetooth audio

Fingerprint reader: Works Broken on Always on Display (turn screen on first) Kind of a big deal. Do you still need to apply to unlock your own device and hope they let you?

> Kind of a big deal.

That the fingerprint reader doesn't work is a feature, not a bug. Fingerprints are the worst passwords, as they are easily obtained/faked and cannot be changed.

This tendency to embed biometric sensors in consumer devices is hurting users and hurting security. Only cops and psychopaths find any sort of advantage in that.

Re: My debloating experience with Poco F3

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Post by southerntofu »

squarefoot wrote: post #9
unnouinceput wrote: post #7

Quote: "It was funny because I was removing these applications to stop sharing my personal data" and goes later to Quote: "Here is the list of apps that I deleted from my phone. com.android.chrome Alternative: Microsoft Edge" Really? How about Firefox instead!!? I mean if you really want to stop sharing your personal data why you'd go to the other evil dude across the street, huh?

+1 for Firefox. Some think that a local evil dude is less evil than a foreign evil dude. As an European, I would be less concerned if my data was pwned by Xiaomi rather than Microsoft; should my government ask for my data, they're more likely to be served by Microsoft than Xiaomi.

Firefox for mobile is a good choice, but Tor Browser is even better (like on desktop), because it has built-in fingerprinting prevention.

> Some think that a local evil dude is less evil than a foreign evil dude.

Some people think that, although like you i'm less afraid of chinese secret police than french/US secret police, but what would be even better is when no "evil dude" is involved at all :)

Re: My debloating experience with Poco F3

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Post by mtrcn »

slim wrote: post #15
unnouinceput wrote: post #7

Quote: "It was funny because I was removing these applications to stop sharing my personal data" and goes later to Quote: "Here is the list of apps that I deleted from my phone. com.android.chrome Alternative: Microsoft Edge" Really? How about Firefox instead!!? I mean if you really want to stop sharing your personal data why you'd go to the other evil dude across the street, huh?

He seems to be a MS fan. He replaced everything Google with MS

Unfortunately I have tried to use other applications to setup my company email and install another browser on my computer rahter than Chrome or Edge to have consistent browser experience. Unfortunately it wasn't possible, maybe I should have mentioned it :)

Re: My debloating experience with Poco F3

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Post by sudosysgen »

dave_sullivan wrote: post #19
jeswin wrote: post #4

The best way to debloat and prevent phones from calling home servers in China is simply by running LineageOS; don't even bother with anything else. I use Lineage on multiple devices (OnePlus, Poco F1), and it's at least as good as plain Android on a Pixel. Warning: Poco F3 is different from the Poco F3 GT available in some regions - GT uses Mediatek Dimensity 1200 instead of Snapdragon 870. Mediatek SoCs don't work w…

I ended up on Havoc but I agree the experience is much better than stock. 2 things that make me much less excited about how much control I have: There is still a xiaomi boot rom running under Havoc or Lineage, I can only assume xiaomi can put anything they want in that, so my phone isn't more secure, it's just less bloated. Also, once you unlock you can now get access to the phone with a computer, bypassing the passw…

If you're not using full disk encryption, you're going to be vulnerable to physical attacks no matter what. It does mean the attacker will need 30 more minutes with your phone though.

Just set up encryption. Once it works, it works, so it's worth it.

Re: My debloating experience with Poco F3

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Post by zingplex »

sudosysgen wrote: post #25
dave_sullivan wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ended up on Havoc but I agree the experience is much better than stock. 2 things that make me much less excited about how much control I have: There is still a xiaomi boot rom running under Havoc or Lineage, I can only assume xiaomi can put anything they want in that, so my phone isn't more secure, it's just less bloated. Also, once you unlock you can now get access to the phone with a computer, bypassing the passw…

If you're not using full disk encryption, you're going to be vulnerable to physical attacks no matter what. It does mean the attacker will need 30 more minutes with your phone though. Just set up encryption. Once it works, it works, so it's worth it.

Does Android even have a full disk encryption option anymore? Last I heard they moved to file based encryption. I don't know enough to knowledgeably discuss the tradeoffs though.

Re: My debloating experience with Poco F3

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Post by sudosysgen »

zingplex wrote: post #27
sudosysgen wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're not using full disk encryption, you're going to be vulnerable to physical attacks no matter what. It does mean the attacker will need 30 more minutes with your phone though. Just set up encryption. Once it works, it works, so it's worth it.

Does Android even have a full disk encryption option anymore? Last I heard they moved to file based encryption. I don't know enough to knowledgeably discuss the tradeoffs though.

You're right, from Android 10 onwards it's file based encryption. Still, it can be set up with ROMs and work. The most difficult part is getting the bootloader and recovery to grok the encryption
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