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Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by opheliate »

fikama wrote: post #13
opheliate wrote: post #10

I pay for the Owl extension [0] which allows me to use my university's MS Exchange account with Thunderbird. I don't understand why Mozilla don't offer this themselves though, is it too complicated to put the effort in given the size of the userbase? Or is there some reason it has to be proprietary and they're against releasing proprietary software? I really appreciate Owl, but I'd much rather just pay Mozilla direct…

I think thunderbird is now an independent project, it doesn't belong to Mozilla

I thought that too, I was a bit confused by the fact Mozilla are still operating the donations in the OP, which is why I mention Mozilla specifically. Definitely s/Mozilla/Thunderbird devs/ if that's wrong though.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by throwawaybchr »

spapas82 wrote: post #19

Late versions of Thunderbird have integrated GPG functionality. I have tested and used this extensively and I think it's a required feature that enables most users to have excellent security in their communications. For me, only this would be more than enough enough to switch to Thunderbird as my main mail client!

Does it require the other party to know what gpg is?

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by gnuarch »

On GNU/Linux Thunderbird ist my favourite GUI mail client, offering support for a variety of standards, including e.g. CalDAV (CardDAV in Beta), OpenPGP and S/MIME.

Not sure whether Chat should be part of it, currently offering Google Talk, IRC, Odnoklassniki, and XMPP (Twitter finally gone). Support for Usenet News is appreciated, though I enjoy Pan.

On GNU/Linux I thus consider GNOME Evolution as best alternative. (Haven't looked at the KDE suite for some time with Akonadi being too heavy last time I tried it on my simple machine.) Neither Claws, Geary, Sylpheed, or others offer such broad support, although those are very nice GUI clients.

Further alternatives are listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text-based_email_client

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by [deleted] »

ruiidont wrote: post #14
opheliate wrote: post #10

I pay for the Owl extension [0] which allows me to use my university's MS Exchange account with Thunderbird. I don't understand why Mozilla don't offer this themselves though, is it too complicated to put the effort in given the size of the userbase? Or is there some reason it has to be proprietary and they're against releasing proprietary software? I really appreciate Owl, but I'd much rather just pay Mozilla direct…

Did you check if there's a bug report for this (marked as enhancements)? Google bugzilla

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Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by meesterdude »

gnomewascool wrote: post #16
meesterdude wrote: post #12

Use thunderbird everyday on both my machines - but they've been changing things for no good reason and breaking the UI/UX because of it. thanks but no thanks.

> but they've been changing things for no good reason and breaking the UI/UX because of it. The reason is the underlying Gecko engine being constantly yanked from under them — they rely on parts of Firefox's codebase and when that changes, they have to keep up, risk having security vulnerabilities or manually backport relevant security patches, in effect maintaining their own forked browser engine.

understandable shifting sands; but that's NO excuse for the sort of shoddy work they've done to address it. At best interpretation, there was not enough rudimentary QA done, because some of their changes (at least, in previous releases i worked with) outright broke the ability to compose messages. This was the result of finally hitting the "upgrade" button: black text on a black background. So I rolled back.

This, in addition to some of their other UX changes (like moving to SVG icons) - just makes it feel like after 10 years I am no longer their user base, and from what I've read the team is unwilling to be flexible with these changes. Thanks for the middle finger. They're breaking things and I'm supposed to just be happy about it.

Regretfully I've fallen out of love with thunderbird, and i am exploring other clients. My needs are not complex, outside of perhaps the google auth song & dance.

I want thunderbird to be the FF of email clients.... I guess in a way they are. Open source disappointment that pushes people to non-open solutions.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by aidenn0 »

gnuarch wrote: post #24

On GNU/Linux Thunderbird ist my favourite GUI mail client, offering support for a variety of standards, including e.g. CalDAV (CardDAV in Beta), OpenPGP and S/MIME. Not sure whether Chat should be part of it, currently offering Google Talk, IRC, Odnoklassniki, and XMPP (Twitter finally gone). Support for Usenet News is appreciated, though I enjoy Pan. On GNU/Linux I thus consider GNOME Evolution as best alternative.…

KDE suite just seems too modular. When something doesn't work, I can't figure out how to reconfigure.

Evolution seems to have a similar architecture, but everything can be configured from within evolution's gui

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by wodenokoto »

fikama wrote: post #13
opheliate wrote: post #10

I pay for the Owl extension [0] which allows me to use my university's MS Exchange account with Thunderbird. I don't understand why Mozilla don't offer this themselves though, is it too complicated to put the effort in given the size of the userbase? Or is there some reason it has to be proprietary and they're against releasing proprietary software? I really appreciate Owl, but I'd much rather just pay Mozilla direct…

I think thunderbird is now an independent project, it doesn't belong to Mozilla

From the donation page:

> Contributions go to MZLA Technologies Corporation, a California corporation wholly owned by the Mozilla Foundation. Funds will be reserved for use in the Thunderbird project. Contributions are not tax-deductible as charitable contributions.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by aidenn0 »

opheliate wrote: post #10

I pay for the Owl extension [0] which allows me to use my university's MS Exchange account with Thunderbird. I don't understand why Mozilla don't offer this themselves though, is it too complicated to put the effort in given the size of the userbase? Or is there some reason it has to be proprietary and they're against releasing proprietary software? I really appreciate Owl, but I'd much rather just pay Mozilla direct…

I find davmail to be the best way to access exchange. It connects to exchange and sets up local proxies using pop, IMAP, SMTP, and calDav.

Then I can use whichever client I like. Otherwise it's just bouncing between which client has had the exchange plugins updated most recently.

As a bonus, it's distributed as a jar, so you can download and run for the latest support, even on an LTS of a Linux distro

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