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PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Great example of a clickbait headline right there. No love lost for the CCP from my side, but making stuff up is stupid. The guy burned bridges with his doctoral advisor, left the uni, went to China to study in a Chinese university and posted a racist cartoon about Chinese people. Then after they expelled him (figures) he tried to force his way back into the previous one. None of this is the least bit controversial.

This is misrepresenting the article quite a bit. The newspaper also sides with him after having reviewed all accounts.

He did not "burn" bridges, the relationship was very positive up until the complaint. And he "left" the Uni only temporarily because of an administrative technicality. This is a common thing in German-speaking countries. Some universities have hard limits on the total terms of study. You can avoid racking up total terms by temporarily ex-matriculating yourself.

He also only retweeted the "racist" cartoon and did not think much of it. He was not even aware it was considered to be problematic. Something like this can easily happen to anyone. Especially, in the heated debate climate of the last year.

They university did not expel him, the advisor just cut off all contact. This is more a Kafkaesque situation where the university is exploiting a technicality to comply with Chinese pressure.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Deep down in the reddit comments there is a statement from the university, which mentioned "The former supervisor's desire to clearly distance herself is understandable when an accusation of racism is in the air." Some other comments also mentioned a "racist cartoon".

It is also mentioned in the report: https://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss-phd-students-dismissal-spot...

> The writer accuses Gerber of a «racist attack on the Chinese people.» He was referring to a specific tweet: a cartoon that Gerber had posted in response to another user's tweet. It depicted a comic character that had been altered and had stereotyped Chinese features, with yellow skin tone and slit eyes. This drawing circulated on social media in the spring of 2020, and was deemed racist by some users. Gerber said he only shared the cartoon because of its political message. The underlying topic had been China's stance toward Taiwan and Hong Kong. «In retrospect, I realize I didn't question the rendering of the Chinese person enough,» he said.

So it is about "yellow skin tone and slit eyes".

This is crazy. I don't understand how is this OK. One Twitter of cartoon , you are expelled? No chance of explanation or apologize?

Even the CCP wouldn't do this. I am pretty sure a Chinese student wouldn't be expelled from the university from one single anti-CCP social media post.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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I am very sorry this looks like another post the pro-CCP trolls will have a feast on and severely diminish the value of Hacker News. It's sad to see another good website to go under under the onslaught of political propaganda.

To the topic, CCP influence in Western academia is a huge and growing problem the West is sleeping on to its own peril. It is probably too late now for any meaninugful fix and anyway how would that fix look like? So prepare for more self-censorship and censorship and bullying of researchers critical of CCP.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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The article in English: https://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss-phd-students-dismissal-spot...

Thanks. Maybe an admin can change the URL from reddit to this?

Maybe it would be better to change the URL to https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/oxmgg2/phd_student_... so that we can read the comment threads more easily; the Redditors are picking apart the claims in the article from different angles, while the newspaper is not.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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The link leads to a reddit post, which leads to another reddit post, which leads to this article in Swiss: https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/hsg-und-china-kritik-auf-twitter-... I can't read Swiss... but the comments on Reddit seem to show that this isn't as cut and dry as the title makes it sound. Quoting /u/hamsterman20: > "First of all, he was going to a chinese university with a chinese scholarship. > He left the swiss…

Lol, it's German. There is no Swiss language. We speak German, French, Italian and Romansch here.

Suisse Dutsch might as well be its own language.
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