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My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

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Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#21
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post is about the Elgato Stream Deck, not the Valve Steam Deck.

Oh, well that's terrible naming then. I totally thought this was a PC gaming console. I wonder if Valve is going to try to fight a trademark in court because it's so similar. This guy better be careful otherwise he could be stuck with huge legal fees depending how popular this gets. Seems early enough in product development that he could change it without problem.

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Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#22
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post is about the Elgato Stream Deck, not the Valve Steam Deck.

Oh, well that's terrible naming then. I totally thought this was a PC gaming console. I wonder if Valve is going to try to fight a trademark in court because it's so similar. This guy better be careful otherwise he could be stuck with huge legal fees depending how popular this gets. Seems early enough in product development that he could change it without problem.

The photos in the post show quite clearly what this is.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, well that's terrible naming then. I totally thought this was a PC gaming console. I wonder if Valve is going to try to fight a trademark in court because it's so similar. This guy better be careful otherwise he could be stuck with huge legal fees depending how popular this gets. Seems early enough in product development that he could change it without problem.

The Valve Steam Deck was announced on July 15, 2021 and isn’t even released yet. The Elgato Stream Deck has been for sale since mid 2017. I don’t think Elgato, the manufacturer of the Stream Deck, or this guy, who wrote code to integrate with it, have anything to worry about.

It doesn't matter who had it first. I don't think Elgato has the deep bottomless pockets that Valve has. They both wouldn't stand a chance in court for years of litigation. I'm not saying it's fair but that's just the way it is in the US court system.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#24
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post is about the Elgato Stream Deck, not the Valve Steam Deck.

Oh, well that's terrible naming then. I totally thought this was a PC gaming console. I wonder if Valve is going to try to fight a trademark in court because it's so similar. This guy better be careful otherwise he could be stuck with huge legal fees depending how popular this gets. Seems early enough in product development that he could change it without problem.

This is not a new product. It's the author's configuration for an existing product, the Elgato Stream Deck.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#25
With the popularity of these devices, I am surprised no one has taken a swing at producing a new keyboard in the spirit of the old Optimus Maximus[1]. I would love to see how the tech improvements of the last decade and a half could help improve that design.

[1] - https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#27
post #25

With the popularity of these devices, I am surprised no one has taken a swing at producing a new keyboard in the spirit of the old Optimus Maximus[1]. I would love to see how the tech improvements of the last decade and a half could help improve that design. [1] - https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

Waaaah! I remember the Optimus Maximus. I never got one but I was drooling over it as a kid.

It made a lot of sense to me that a keyboard should be configurable to display what's expected on which keys. Switching between different layouts but also quick actions, video game inputs, etc. The macOS touchbar sort of does that.

I frankly would like to see it, even if I suspect that, if it could be done (without expending millions in R&D), it would have been done by now.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#28
Really cool! I've recently got really fed up with the default software and wrote my own library for .NET to manage the device[1].

For anyone curious, I've also documented how to reverse-engineer the USB protocol[2], so you can write your own libraries and pretty much set any buttons to anything (with much more OS control granularity).

[1]: https://deck.surf

[2]: https://den.dev/blog/reverse-engineering-stream-deck/

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#29
post #25

With the popularity of these devices, I am surprised no one has taken a swing at producing a new keyboard in the spirit of the old Optimus Maximus[1]. I would love to see how the tech improvements of the last decade and a half could help improve that design. [1] - https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

Waaaah! I remember the Optimus Maximus. I never got one but I was drooling over it as a kid. It made a lot of sense to me that a keyboard should be configurable to display what's expected on which keys. Switching between different layouts but also quick actions, video game inputs, etc. The macOS touchbar sort of does that. I frankly would like to see it, even if I suspect that, if it could be done (without expending…

The Optimus Maximus felt like the future of keyboards when I was a kid and it first released. Hold shift and all the letters go from lower-case to upper, hold control/command and the keys change into their modifiers, telling you exactly what it does. Play World of Warcraft and instead of a number row your action bars with appropriate icons is there.

I'm a little surprised Elgato hasn't tried. I wonder if the original creators have some kind of a patent on ANSI/ISO keyboards with displays under the keys?

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Waaaah! I remember the Optimus Maximus. I never got one but I was drooling over it as a kid. It made a lot of sense to me that a keyboard should be configurable to display what's expected on which keys. Switching between different layouts but also quick actions, video game inputs, etc. The macOS touchbar sort of does that. I frankly would like to see it, even if I suspect that, if it could be done (without expending…

The Optimus Maximus felt like the future of keyboards when I was a kid and it first released. Hold shift and all the letters go from lower-case to upper, hold control/command and the keys change into their modifiers, telling you exactly what it does. Play World of Warcraft and instead of a number row your action bars with appropriate icons is there. I'm a little surprised Elgato hasn't tried. I wonder if the original…

Wikipedia[1] says the patent for this expired in 2016. Interesting enough, it also mentions that Apple filed a similar patent for a "dynamically changing OLED keyboard" in 2007. I wonder if that project was abandoned or eventually morphed into the Touchbar. Personally, I think having the screen(s) be individual keys would be a huge usability improvement over the Touchbar which doesn't have the same tactile feedback.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Maximus_keyboard

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