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The nytimes they are a-changin'

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Re: The nytimes they are a-changin'

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Post by gmac »

petercooper wrote: post #17

This did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.

Or at the same times of the day but in different timezones.

Re: The nytimes they are a-changin'

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Post by CJefferson »

petercooper wrote: post #17

This did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.

I think this might show that stories disappear from the front page too quickly -- although of course slowing that down would result in frequent visitors seeing less new material.

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Post by jeremymims »

Perpetually.com solves this problem. In fact, they're already working with newspapers like The Wall Street Journal and for every major federally elected political candidate. More than just random screen captures, every article, every change, every link and state are preserved. It's like Apple Time Machine for the Internet.

http://www.perpetually.com/

Full Disclosure: I advise this company.

Re: The nytimes they are a-changin'

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Post by petercooper »

tybris wrote: post #23
petercooper wrote: post #17

This did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.

Is that a bad thing?

That's a subjective judgment.

However, the window for even a popular link to remain on the front page nowadays continues to shrink. It's akin to the "attention span" of the site dropping. It has its pros and cons but shows that the system that fit the audience in a certain way in the past no longer does so (at least, it does not yield the same results).

My personal and subjective judgment is that this certainly becomes a bad thing at some point due to the lack of cohesion between users' experiences. Instead of a large share of the user base sharing a similar site wide experience, instead we only share knowledge within threads that we happen to see and participate in. There are, then, entire "shadow" discussions occurring in other threads that cover exactly the same topic. Fragmentation.

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Post by phillmv »

spudlyo wrote: post #3

Wow, I had no idea the ads were so huge and invasive. It made me wonder how much Ralph Lauren spent to have their ads take what seemed to be over 50% of the on-screen real estate.

That's the least of it. I edited out six full days where the whole page above the fold was an ad.

Re: The nytimes they are a-changin'

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Post by phillmv »

petercooper wrote: post #17

This did well on HN a week ago too: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2778219 Seeing so many signs in the last year that HN is formed of different overlapping audiences that visit at different times of the day. Tons of dupes lately.

In terms of views, it did far better with this link than with the previous one. I was surprised, I only noticed when I looked it up on my analytics.

A big part of the problem is that it's abysmally hard to search for previous links on HN.

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