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Vaccinated Americans more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid

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Re: Vaccinated Americans more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid

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Post by nradov »

mint2 wrote: post #8
blacktriangle wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love how the burden of proof is apparently on the people who don't want to take the highly experimental rushed to market treatment that is making its manufacture (and those in government who are linked to said manufacturers) rich. I swear it only took 5 years to convert everybody from "don't trust the gov" to "blindly trust the government!"

Is Covid a fake virus? It’s a choice between getting Covid and getting the vaccine. It’s only a matter of time before one gets Covid if one isn’t vaccinated. The only caveat is with the delta variant and whatever next even more virulent variant comes along due to the mutations that occur as the virus continues to spread freely (due to lack of vaccines induced herd immunity), vaccinated people may get it without a boo…

You appear to be a little confused about the terminology. Most of us will eventually get exposed to SARS-CoV-2 (the virus). Only a subset of those will get COVID-19 (the disease). The available vaccines greatly improve your odds of avoiding COVID-19 even if you do get infected.

Re: Vaccinated Americans more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid

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Post by nradov »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #17
iammisc wrote: post #16

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My goodness, all viral colds have a whole slurry of symptoms that some unlucky few get. I remember when some kid in my mom's second grade class died one weekend because of an infection he caught on Friday. Shit happens, the world is weird. We used to live our life while ignoring all the various terrible things that could happen to 1 in 1million people. > And it's not like the people who _are_ older than the HN demogr…

> the various terrible things that could happen to 1 in 1million people The current US COVID fatality rate is 1 in 50 cases. The incidence of measurable brain damage in survivors appears to be even higher. Even if we pretend that everyone in the entire US has already been infected (obviously false), that would still be a fatality rate of 1 in 550. Getting to 1 in a million takes some extreme stretching. > We never ma…

I flagged your comment for spreading misinformation about a serious subject. The fatality rate is nowhere near 2%. The latest data from the CDC shows 0.6%.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...

Re: Vaccinated Americans more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid

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Post by ohiovr »

neolog wrote: post #3

- 41 lightning deaths per year in the USA [1] out of 328M people. 41/328M = 1.25e-7 - 1,263 covid deaths in the USA out of 163M vaccinated [2]. 1263/163M = 7.75e-6 and it's not even August. Seems wrong, by more than (vaccinated=1263/163M)/(lightning=41/328M) = 62x. Or am I missing something? [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/06/08/us-weather... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-department…

Well there are more thunderstorms this year, in Ohio at least. Even brick walls are getting destroyed by them.

Re: Vaccinated Americans more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid

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Post by bumby »

iammisc wrote: post #16
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #13

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> Unless the commenter above is much older than typical HN demographics, if they get covid they will likely get a cold And apparently long term brain damage according to several large studies published in the last few months. It's not exactly a secret that death isn't the only measurable consequence of the virus. And it's not like the people who _are_ older than the HN demographic are out there getting sick by lickin…

My goodness, all viral colds have a whole slurry of symptoms that some unlucky few get. I remember when some kid in my mom's second grade class died one weekend because of an infection he caught on Friday. Shit happens, the world is weird. We used to live our life while ignoring all the various terrible things that could happen to 1 in 1million people. > And it's not like the people who _are_ older than the HN demogr…

>We never made everyone stay inside with AIDS

Maybe not the best analogy. It’s much easier to prevent transmission of HIV by avoiding high risk behavior like IV drug use and unprotected sex than, you know, standing next to someone who’s breathing.

Re: Vaccinated Americans more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid

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Post by blacktriangle »

iammisc wrote: post #15
hirvi74 wrote: post #14

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This view point does not account for the harmful effects of spreading the disease to other potentially more vulnerable populations. Vaccines are not solely for the benefit of individual, but also the population of which the individual belongs.

Are those 'vulnerable' populations not able to get vaccinated?

Remember, you have to get the vaccine because it works, but everybody has to get vaccinated to protect you because your vaccine apparently doesn't work...

Re: Vaccinated Americans more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid

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Post by shadowgovt »

neolog wrote: post #3

- 41 lightning deaths per year in the USA [1] out of 328M people. 41/328M = 1.25e-7 - 1,263 covid deaths in the USA out of 163M vaccinated [2]. 1263/163M = 7.75e-6 and it's not even August. Seems wrong, by more than (vaccinated=1263/163M)/(lightning=41/328M) = 62x. Or am I missing something? [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/06/08/us-weather... [2] https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-department…

Your second numerator should be COVID deaths of vaccinated people, not total COVID deaths.
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