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South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

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Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#21
How is the invention of an AI any different from the result of any traditional optimization process?

Example: I searched for aerodinamics genetic algorithms and I found "Genetic algorithms applied to the aerodynamic design of transonic airfoils" https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.46810 (paywalled but that's not the point.)

Rename genetic algorithms into Multi Generational AI and is the Patent Office going to accept a patent for those airfoils with the AI as the inventor?

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#22

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

I'm sure I have read a Charles Stross novel in which the protagonist does this and becomes the wealthiest person on the planet

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#23

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

Then patent offices will generate adversarial AI review examiners. Together the AI trolls and AI examiners might for the first time produce true innovation out of the patent-giving process

You forgot to mention the AI judges, when there is a dispute.

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#24

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

A patent fee should keep this behaviour to a minimum... Patents already have quite a big fee, but perhaps it should be made larger to prevent this kind of abuse. If the large fee prevents inventors, then perhaps some scheme along the lines of 'The fee is $50 for the first 5 inventions, then $100k per patent after that" might be suitable.

I hate to be pessimistic, but I'm sure this would lead to situations where dummy companies are set up for registering the patent, and are then acquired by the patent troll, with all those assets.

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#25
Yeah the rest of the world declined this because the AI

(1) isn’t a legal person

(2) wouldn’t be able to confer ownership and

(3) identify when the patent was being infringed.

This is silly. Great theater, but nothing else.

That being said AI patents are an issue, but I don’t think they’re quite there yet.

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#27

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

I'm sure I have read a Charles Stross novel in which the protagonist does this and becomes the wealthiest person on the planet

Accelerando

> In IP geek circles, Manfred is legendary; he's the guy who patented the business practice of moving your e-business somewhere with a slack intellectual property regime in order to evade licensing encumbrances. He's the guy who patented using genetic algorithms to patent everything they can permutate from an initial description of a problem domain – not just a better mousetrap, but the set of all possible better mousetraps.

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#28

I don't know about you, but for me this feels like the gates of hell opening for patent trolls. AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day. As always patent trolls make no money from patents, but from the bureaucratic process. So a schema like this that allows virtually unlimited patents to be created will increase even more trolls misbehavior

> AI can produce thousands of patents in a single day

This is only a problem if the AI is litigious. Surely an AI with true agency would be keep the patent rights to themselves

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#29
post #18

I wonder if there is an advantage to a company in not having a named human registered against their patent.

The AI cannot be dragged into court to testify about the creation of the patent?

...yet?

Re: South Africa issues world’s first patent listing AI as inventor

#30
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Corporations are also an artificial construct.

They are a legally recognised/defined artificial construct - which is quite important.

comprised of humans, which is also salient.
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