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Re: IPv6 Watch

#21

Post by capableweb » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:44 PM UTC

Naac wrote: post #2

That table isn't very helpful. What does it mean for Arch Linux to have IPv6 support? When you say "Amazon" doesn't have IPv6 support, do you mean AWS, the retail store? It would be better if instead of linking to say, archlinux.org, you link to the actual page describing what specifically about Arch is IPv6, same for all the other endpoints. I would also replace the support sentence with a green/yellow/red color che…

Link to the source is in the bottom of the page.

    hosts:
      - www.archlinux.org
      - aur.archlinux.org

https://github.com/andir/ipv6.watch/blob/bd581ac70b900ba0c1c...

    hosts:
      - amazon.com
      - www.amazon.com

https://github.com/andir/ipv6.watch/blob/bd581ac70b900ba0c1c...

Generally, when people write "Amazon" they mean the store (amazon.com) and when people write "AWS" they are referring to the infrastructure provider.

I agree that the URLs being tested should be visible on the page, so you don't have to lookup the source.

With that said, not sure how useful it is to say that (aur.)archlinux.org has IPv6 enabled, what you really care about is the repositories and so on, but those are all spread out so it'll be hard to test all of them. At least could test the official mirrors.

Re: IPv6 Watch

#22

Post by woxko » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

quantico wrote: post #7

It feels ironic to post this on a site which itself does not support IPv6.

In what way would using ipv6 enhance your experience using this site?

Re: IPv6 Watch

#23

Post by TekMol » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

I will start thinking about supporting IPv6 when Docker supports it out of the box.

Hopefully, then I can test an individual application by running it in a container with "docker run -p [::1]:80:80 ...".

I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of fiddling with the docker demon and setting up a custom network.

Re: IPv6 Watch

#24

Post by joeframbach » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

You and I have very different opinions about what constitutes a major website. Gentoo isn't exactly on a lot of people's bookmarks bar. Maybe try https://www.alexa.com/topsites instead, and you can give adoption statistics by hits/population rather than number of sites.

Re: IPv6 Watch

#25

Post by cranekam » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

obedm wrote: post #5

Can someone explain to me what does IPv6 offer that's IPv4 doesn't? Apart from way more addresses. A good article would suffice.

Not running out of addresses is the primary (and significant) offering.

Re: IPv6 Watch

#26

Post by slater » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

woxko wrote: post #22

quantico wrote: post #7

It feels ironic to post this on a site which itself does not support IPv6.

In what way would using ipv6 enhance your experience using this site?

One less reason to take up gardening? /s

Re: IPv6 Watch

#27

Post by axiosgunnar » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

woxko wrote: post #22

quantico wrote: post #7

It feels ironic to post this on a site which itself does not support IPv6.

In what way would using ipv6 enhance your experience using this site?

In what way would using ipv6 enhance your experience using the sites listed on the site?

Re: IPv6 Watch

#28

Post by jtchang » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:54 PM UTC

IPv6 has barely a carrot and no stick.

Does anyone give me more money for using IPv6? Sure I might be able to save some money by not using IPv4 but that is rare.

Government doesn't incentivize it. Ad networks don't either. There is very little penalty (financial or otherwise) for not going to IPv6.

IPv6 will not happen until those sticks and carrots get bigger.

Re: IPv6 Watch

#29

Post by amarshall » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:55 PM UTC

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #18

fintler wrote: post #15

A basic understanding of what an IPv6 world will look like really didn't click for me until I read the IPv6 Address Planning book by Tom Coffeen. Before that, I really just saw it as IPv4 with longer addresses. Once you dig into the details, you come to the realization that it's a nearly complete reinvention of IPv4. Network planning looks quite different (especially when it comes to subnets) when you plan them with…

Could you give a brief overview of your current understanding? I'm curious as to why /60 would be too limited, and how it's different from IPv4.

Probably because /64 is the smallest recommended subnet size, and a /60 has “only” 16 /64 subnets within it.

Re: IPv6 Watch

#30

Post by woxko » Wed, Jul 28, 2021, 5:55 PM UTC

axiosgunnar wrote: post #27

woxko wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way would using ipv6 enhance your experience using this site?

In what way would using ipv6 enhance your experience using the sites listed on the site?

None, I also think the site is stupid.