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China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Re: China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Post by minikites »

tharne wrote: post #20
minikites wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sinophobia is the new Islamophobia, which was the replacement for Russophobia when the USSR collapsed. The USA seems to need an enemy at all times so we don't focus on how bad things are in the domestic sphere.

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Of course China can be criticized, but lots of Americans think the USA is a force for good in the world, fighting against the "evils" of these other nations, while never reflecting on our own similar evils. That's what makes it irrational. The USA is A) already powerful, B) does the same with our own ethnic and racial minorities (e.g. the extremely racist criminal justice system and our centuries of poor treatment of indigenous Americans, just two of many examples), and C) has states like Florida continuing to cover up COVID. Pointing this out gets called "whataboutism" because many people have the romantic idea that the USA is a force for freedom and justice in the world, an idea that is demonstrably untrue.

Re: China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Post by estaseuropano »

minikites wrote: post #18
moistly wrote: post #5

A similar photo hit the web a month or so ago. Turned out to be windmills. It makes no sense to put missile silos close together. I’ll reserve judgment for now, but I doubt the headline’s claim.

Sinophobia is the new Islamophobia, which was the replacement for Russophobia when the USSR collapsed. The USA seems to need an enemy at all times so we don't focus on how bad things are in the domestic sphere.

Seems to me a rather fact-based analysis as to possible geopolitical role of these silos. where is the phobia?

Re: China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Post by estaseuropano »

moistly wrote: post #5

A similar photo hit the web a month or so ago. Turned out to be windmills. It makes no sense to put missile silos close together. I’ll reserve judgment for now, but I doubt the headline’s claim.

Sure it makes sense, it means its easier to police/protect. If the aim is deterrence then in any case they launch before something arrives.

Re: China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Post by Arrath »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #16
moistly wrote: post #5

A similar photo hit the web a month or so ago. Turned out to be windmills. It makes no sense to put missile silos close together. I’ll reserve judgment for now, but I doubt the headline’s claim.

We'll see when the climate-controlled domes are removed. I'm no expert and so a little surprised that building the base of a windmill requires such dome.

It looks a bit overkill, but the domes could feasibly be to allow for proper temperature and moisture control of the concrete curing process.

Or to make satellite overwatch of what they're doing under the dome that much more difficult.

Or both!

Re: China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Post by tharne »

minikites wrote: post #21
tharne wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Of course China can be criticized, but lots of Americans think the USA is a force for good in the world, fighting against the "evils" of these other nations, while never reflecting on our own similar evils. That's what makes it irrational. The USA is A) already powerful, B) does the same with our own ethnic and racial minorities (e.g. the extremely racist criminal justice system and our centuries of poor treatment of…

The sins of the U.S. are many, but I don't think anyone can credibly say, in the modern era, that the treatment of minorities in the U.S. is in any way, shape, or form comparable to what's happening in China right now. Say what you will about the U.S., no one's getting put in camps.

Re: China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Post by minikites »

tharne wrote: post #25
minikites wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course China can be criticized, but lots of Americans think the USA is a force for good in the world, fighting against the "evils" of these other nations, while never reflecting on our own similar evils. That's what makes it irrational. The USA is A) already powerful, B) does the same with our own ethnic and racial minorities (e.g. the extremely racist criminal justice system and our centuries of poor treatment of…

The sins of the U.S. are many, but I don't think anyone can credibly say, in the modern era, that the treatment of minorities in the U.S. is in any way, shape, or form comparable to what's happening in China right now. Say what you will about the U.S., no one's getting put in camps.

We put people in prison because of race, because we choose to enforce some laws on people of certain races and not on others. Slavery is allowed as punishment for a crime (see the text of the amendment) and that's exactly what we do with prisoners. When people of certain races are executed by police, the officer(s) do not usually face consequences or punishment.

We're the world's biggest glass house, maybe we shouldn't throw so many stones. We can set a better example by changing how our society operates, we only need to choose to do so.

Re: China Is Building a Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field

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Post by sudosysgen »

estaseuropano wrote: post #23
moistly wrote: post #5

A similar photo hit the web a month or so ago. Turned out to be windmills. It makes no sense to put missile silos close together. I’ll reserve judgment for now, but I doubt the headline’s claim.

Sure it makes sense, it means its easier to police/protect. If the aim is deterrence then in any case they launch before something arrives.

Police and protect against who? Are vandals going to steal your nuclear missiles from their silos?

And no, you can't guarantee a launch before destruction for deterrence.

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