Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable • Hacker News Board

Re: Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable

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Post by vlmutolo » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 11:53 PM UTC

websites2023 wrote: post #8

AbuAssar wrote: post #6

It also comes with 6 different port options, that you can mix and match! (USB-A / USB-C x 2 / HDMI / DisplayPort / MicroSD) imagine extending your laptop and customizing it, without using any external dongles and hubs!

Except that the ports are essentially custom dongles that lock into the case. So instead of relying on the full market to make a usb-c to whatever dongle in the future, you’re relying on Framework to do it. A single company. This is not better.

This comment doesn't make much sense. First off, allowing you to customize the ports on the laptop is strictly better than not allowing you to customize them. If you want to use your USBC-to-whatever dongle, you're still free to do so.

Also, the expansion card design is open source and on GitHub, so that should encourage experimentation, and maybe even smaller for-profit manufacturing operations if FrameWork gets big enough.

If you want something to complain about re: the ports, it should be that you can only have four of them (including the charging port over USBC, I believe).

Re: Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable

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Post by anshumankmr » Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 1:55 AM UTC

sharikone wrote: post #20

anshumankmr wrote: post #4

There was a video on YouTube I watched years ago about how enthusiast brands will always betray its core user base. It was talking about One Plus and Essential. But I believe it applies to businesses in general. How will a company like this become mainstream? I hope something like this succeeds in the long-term but the way I see it most people don't want the hassle of worrying about how to repair their laptop or phon…

It's a rather common pattern in politics, that the people who you need in order to rise are not the same who you need in order to stay. But yours is just a negative attitude. Framework could or could not betray its base, they could or could not fail and they could or could not be followed by other manufacturers. In the meantime enjoy, if you want a fully serviceable laptop you have at least one option

Welll, technically, in my country, India, the right to repair sort of already exists. I have gotten my devices repaired by third party vendors many times if my device was not under warranty.

Re: Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable

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Post by Rebelgecko » Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 4:17 AM UTC

Are they actually selling replacement parts? I couldn't find any listed on their website.

Re: Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable

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Post by anshumankmr » Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 9:44 AM UTC

toper-centage wrote: post #16

anshumankmr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay. But if it wants to continue to serve it existing customer base, it will need to make money. It will need to incentivize people to work for it which will need a lot of money too. Plus it will need to keep up with R&D needed to make laptops (though nowadays laptops are not jumping forward in terms of technology except for increase in processing power and storage). People in other countries may also want to buy it…

Another way to make money without having to detray customers is to... Ask for money. One Plus positioned itself as a cheap flagship killer by having paper thin margins and no marketing, and the moves to just make expensive phones like anyone else. Framework is not cheap and you get what you pay for.

Essential tried the same thing by trying to be a new flagship phone in an already overcrowded market place of Android phones.

Re: Framework Laptop gets 10/10, fully replaceable

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Post by ChrisArchitect » Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 8:05 PM UTC

AbuAssar wrote: post #15

bsd44 wrote: post #10

It gets 10/10 for being replaceable. That's it. I have a Lenovo Thinkbook 13s that has slotted RAM and same spec as Framework's lowest model and it cost me £600 three years ago, this one costs $1000 (or £750) without tax. Seems a bit expensive because realistically all I would ever need to upgrade is memory. (I'd be careful upgrading the mobo/cpu/gpu without the ability to provide quality thermals to support the upgr…

refer to @cge comment below, looks like the company is pushing for an open market for the expansion cards.

comment referred to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27950388