Yuval Noah Harari had a great quote on the history of misinformation in his talk with Natalie Portman that all religious people in history think all religions are fake news besides for one.
Disinformation: It’s History
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#22The public broadcast service in my country is getting extra funding from the EU to fight disinformation on top of its existing 400 million euro budget. The provincial broadcasts network has successfully lobbied the regional government for funding for an "AI" project to measure online viewership counts in order to help them transition to an online presence which has been absent to this day as there budget is exclusively dependent on what outdated topset boxes record as the most watched tv channel. Spitting in the face of every person trying to be the local Joe Rogan in their living room studio. Funny how they think that the current peasant revolt is fuelled by disinformation by Putin.
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#23Nihilism makes me believe that Trump was not such abnormal occurrence. Human minds have a innate desire for virtue and truth, and since objectivity doesn't exist, it becomes difficult to admit that voters would end up create an alternative truth, or at least not at this scale. I think it always came from the fact that truth doesn't really exist. Humans can really believe anything. There is no good and no evil. In a w…
Claiming truth doesn't exist as fact is a truthy statement. Claiming objectivity doesn't exist is a contradiction.
Pure objectivity doesn't really exist.
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#24There's that famous quote from Orwell- "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
Makes me want to listen to Rage Against the Machine.
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#25And here I thought the author was making a pithy observation about the fact that history is always written by the victors, and therefor almost always a form of disinformation about the losers.
That would be "History: It's Disinformation".
i thought the same thing as go comment - remember "it's" is an abbreviation for "it is", reading the article it looks like the author intended the title to be "Disinformation: Its History" - or am i reading too much into a grammatical nitpick?
edit: covered in the comments elsewhere, i see!
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#27There's that famous quote from Orwell- "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
Though nowadays people rely far less on traditions or history in their life. There is a lot of writing on that subject.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Claiming truth doesn't exist as fact is a truthy statement. Claiming objectivity doesn't exist is a contradiction.
Pure objectivity doesn't really exist.
But, curiously, even though something is impossible to obtain we are much better of occasionally listening to the people who are striving with futility to gain it.
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#29Nihilism makes me believe that Trump was not such abnormal occurrence. Human minds have a innate desire for virtue and truth, and since objectivity doesn't exist, it becomes difficult to admit that voters would end up create an alternative truth, or at least not at this scale. I think it always came from the fact that truth doesn't really exist. Humans can really believe anything. There is no good and no evil. In a w…
This is a great comment. People can believe anything. As a current example, in the United States the Republican party has been against vaccines. And have been telling their base to doubt them or not get them. Fox news has lead the way along with lots of other media channels. But for some reason they changed this week and started claiming everyone needs a vaccine. So the complete opposite story. And no one batted an e…
> And no one batted an eye.
Citation needed! Pretty sure you do not have an accurate bead on how "everyone" reacted.
My guess? When people read their trusted news source, and it disagrees with a previous assertion that they've bought into? "Ugh stupid opponents are infiltrating our news. No way I'm buying into this government bullshit trying to force vaccines on us!"
(But I hope that what you say is right - that conservative news is finally encouraging vaccines... and maybe in a few weeks/months their audience will subconsciously flip to "oh yeah vaccines are good. I've always been planning to get them but I needed some assurance they are safe, which we're finally getting just now.")
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#30Haughty propaganda, as expected.