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Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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Kids know. They always know and they understand.

My family went through a bankruptcy when I was a kid. We lost the family business. My parents never told me about it, but I knew. The discussions, the fear of coming home to nothing. It's all real.

Tell your kids, explain to them. Use the difficult time to build a closer bond with them instead of leaving them in the dark.

Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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But consider also: > It is a well-documented fact that by the age of 5 monolingual White children will have heard 30 million fewer words in languages other than English than bilingual children of color. In addition, they will have had a complete lack of exposure to the richness of non-standardized varieties of English that characterize the homes of many children of color. This language gap increases the longer these…

Is this grounded in a peer reviewed paper?

Bilingualism - while awesome, does not track well with skill development (maths / science) in other areas even in immersion type programs where there is no further language barrier.

Non-standardized varieties of ANY language also are negatively correlated with positive outcomes. So folks speaking pidgen or strong dialects of spanish etc also struggle.

Families - even immigrant families, who go big on the monolingual thing (some parents will not speak to children in other than dominate language) have very positive outcomes - so mono-linqual is not just a white thing.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09116...

Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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In the first experiment, researchers sought to observe how parents would interact with their children (in this case, 3-year-olds) after the parents were asked to describe times in which they had recently experienced scarcity. A control group of parents were instead asked to describe other recent activities. How many studies like this need to not replicate before we stop treating them seriously?

There was a report by a psychologist who said Native American mascots have a negative effect on children of native Americans. This may or may not be the case or may be true in some specific circumstances (Redskins, for example) but may not be true for all, however, many high schools are changing their team names based on this one study/conclusion which was funded by a tribe. Which is fine, but usually when there is a…

If you're referring to Fryberg, Markus, Oyserman & Stone 2008, do you think that schools deciding to change their team names/mascots might have something to do with far larger and more broad cultural trends over the last couple of decades rather than these schools decisions resting primarily on the robustness and applicability (or otherwise) of this one paper?

Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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But consider also: > It is a well-documented fact that by the age of 5 monolingual White children will have heard 30 million fewer words in languages other than English than bilingual children of color. In addition, they will have had a complete lack of exposure to the richness of non-standardized varieties of English that characterize the homes of many children of color. This language gap increases the longer these…

Interesting article, but don't expect a fruitful discussion when you bring race into it.

Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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A cynical explanation is that they talk less because on some level they know that talking tends to reveal needs that require money to meet.

I'm eating crackers until my paycheck arrives tomorrow or the next day, and I can say for certain that its a big part of why I talk less right at the moment. The plural of (my) anecdote is not data, of course.

Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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In the first experiment, researchers sought to observe how parents would interact with their children (in this case, 3-year-olds) after the parents were asked to describe times in which they had recently experienced scarcity. A control group of parents were instead asked to describe other recent activities. How many studies like this need to not replicate before we stop treating them seriously?

There was a report by a psychologist who said Native American mascots have a negative effect on children of native Americans. This may or may not be the case or may be true in some specific circumstances (Redskins, for example) but may not be true for all, however, many high schools are changing their team names based on this one study/conclusion which was funded by a tribe. Which is fine, but usually when there is a…

In your example there's no downside to changing the name, though. It's a low stakes decision. In the book "Trust- a Very Short Introduction" the author argues if the situation is "low stakes" you should need a lower level of evidence to trust someone than high stakes. While I think the author might discuss it only in the context of human interactions, I imagine you could apply the paradigm to this situation.

Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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In the first experiment, researchers sought to observe how parents would interact with their children (in this case, 3-year-olds) after the parents were asked to describe times in which they had recently experienced scarcity. A control group of parents were instead asked to describe other recent activities. How many studies like this need to not replicate before we stop treating them seriously?

As long as there is demand for a "safe" explanation for The Gap, an immense amount of spurious research will be funded and lauded.

Re: Word gap: When money’s tight, parents talk less to kids

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a report by a psychologist who said Native American mascots have a negative effect on children of native Americans. This may or may not be the case or may be true in some specific circumstances (Redskins, for example) but may not be true for all, however, many high schools are changing their team names based on this one study/conclusion which was funded by a tribe. Which is fine, but usually when there is a…

In your example there's no downside to changing the name, though. It's a low stakes decision. In the book "Trust- a Very Short Introduction" the author argues if the situation is "low stakes" you should need a lower level of evidence to trust someone than high stakes. While I think the author might discuss it only in the context of human interactions, I imagine you could apply the paradigm to this situation.

> In your example there's no downside to changing the name, though.

Changing a name in response to a conflicted and un-valid paper is a downside in itself.

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