Cancer risks increase with alcohol use, leading to over 740k cases last year

Post by tomjen3 » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 6:03 AM UTC

armada651 wrote: post #6

> Our study highlights the contribution of even relatively low levels of alcohol to the risk of new cancer cases, "relatively" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. I'm always amazed when filling out health surveys where it considers one alcoholic drink every single day a "low level".

Post by cush » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 6:13 AM UTC

DoreenMichele wrote: post #15

rafaelero wrote: post #14

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This is not where I was heading at. We have no simple way to assert that smoking causes lung cancer: no RCT is available for that. So we are left with the same level of evidence that we have for alcohol, which is observational studies. That knee jerk reaction that observational studies can't give us a relatively high level of confidence is why I mentioned the case of tobacco: if you really believe that, you should al…

I really believe that we don't fully understand what cancer is. I really believe that after taking care of a loved one post mastectomy. I really believe that after listening to a relative who worked at the CDC and had cancer multiple times bitch about how most studies are bullshit and there's very little new in cancer research. I really believe that after another relative of mine caused two cancer clinics to change t…

Post by egberts1 » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 6:23 AM UTC

DoreenMichele wrote: post #12

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Let's also smoke, then.

Only if you are self-treating depression. Though these days there are drugs for depression that can dramatically increase the odds you will quit smoking.

Post by wbl » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 6:26 AM UTC

rob74 wrote: post #26

tomjen3 wrote: post #21

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That is a six pack a week? Yeah, that seems pretty low to me. You can certainly go lower than that, without not drinking at all, but you can also go much higher without it having any noticeable effect on your life and without being drunk at any point: One beer to celebrate sitting in your garden at the end of the work day, one glass of wine at dinner, one scotch before bed.

Congratulations, if you do that every single day, that makes you a heavy drinker. Drinking alcohol every single day is already one red flag, and drinking more than one "drink" (one small bottle of beer, one glass of wine or one small glass of whisky/vodka/etc.) per day is a second red flag. Of course you can get much worse than that, but it will still negatively impact your health long-term.

Post by grouphugs » Sat, Jul 17, 2021, 6:29 AM UTC