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Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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It would be great if you could do voice via LoRa too but that would probably quickly exceed the duty cycle restriction.

it could be done with codec2, but duty cycle of 1% would limit it to push to talk brief sentences every minute or so, it might be better to stick to text. Perhaps handy when someone had a mountain accident and can only push and talk. Use a speech to text decoder and limit expressions to 140 characters, should be enough for every piece of conversation including this comment (with vowels stripped out). o wait, that's to little - make it 300 characters.

Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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post #2

Great choice of outer hardware. My old E63 was the last phone I had where I could legitimately touch type, and I still miss it.

Mine was the Sony Ericsson M600i and then P1i: the rocker dual-letter QWERTY was the absolutely best input method I’ve used on a phone.

Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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What is the licensing issue with this? It is like Ham radio license ? Something else? India has started banning drones outright and walkie talkies are banned unless you have prior police verification. I think they demand that radio exam, Morse and all but im not sure. Where does this fit? Is it like cellular connection?

There's different types of regulation to consider.. There's spectrum licensing, radio user licensing, and product certification.

2.4 GHz is considered an ISM band meaning it's license free meaning you do not have to purchase a license from the government to use that physical chunk of spectrum. There are certain chunks of spectrum (frequencies) that are auctioned off by the government. This gets you exclusive usage to that band, across a country or in certain parts. The government will (is supposed to) enforce the spectrum so unlicensed users aren't clogging things up. You may not need a spectrum license for ISM band usage, but you still need to be using certified products.

Next you have user licensing like HAM radio operators. Amateurs are legally required to have licenses to operate the radios. I'm not sure whether a HAM radio license also includes a fee for spectrum.

Last (but I'm sure there's probably more regs), you have the certifications for the product itself. If you're in the US, this means doing FCC testing and getting an ID for your product. Each country typically has their own regulatory body. A certified product means your OK on duty cycle, TX power, etc. There's other tests as well especially if you're dealing with wearables but that's a different story.

Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"enough positive interest from the community". I don't understand that. How much work is it to release? If I make software I can see that if I hacked a giant crap of code together that I would want to clean it up before releasing it to public and save my self the embarrassment knowing I could do it better. However with hardware, you generally need to get it somewhat right or it doesn't work at all and you can't fix i…

At least with the company I'm at, I'm supposed to talk to my boss before releasing code from side projects.

Sounds like slavery or indentured servitude. Why do you accept it?

Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"enough positive interest from the community". I don't understand that. How much work is it to release? If I make software I can see that if I hacked a giant crap of code together that I would want to clean it up before releasing it to public and save my self the embarrassment knowing I could do it better. However with hardware, you generally need to get it somewhat right or it doesn't work at all and you can't fix i…

> If I make software I can see that if I hacked a giant crap of code together that I would want to clean it up before releasing it to public and save my self the embarrassment knowing I could do it better. I think hardware is the same way. There's also protocols to fabrication that may be difficult to explain. You have support requests and emails wasting your time. > "enough positive interest from the community". I d…

>People who offer comments on code beyond how to add material functionality (i.e. more inputs), make it faster, or decrease the code size are trash humans.

I strongly disagree. Making code more maintainable and easy to understand is very important. Enforcing style guides is important

Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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post #2

Great choice of outer hardware. My old E63 was the last phone I had where I could legitimately touch type, and I still miss it.

I had a Nokia E72. Fabulous 'phone that I finally replaced with the iPhone SE (2016), the last iPhone with a headphone jack, (and thus the last one worth buying).

I have an Astro Slide on order, so I shall be returning to a keyboard 'phone, but one that is rather larger:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transforme...

Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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post #2

Great choice of outer hardware. My old E63 was the last phone I had where I could legitimately touch type, and I still miss it.

I had a Nokia E72. Fabulous 'phone that I finally replaced with the iPhone SE (2016), the last iPhone with a headphone jack, (and thus the last one worth buying). I have an Astro Slide on order, so I shall be returning to a keyboard 'phone, but one that is rather larger: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transforme...

Wow, yeah I loved that phone. I'm surprised you kept it so long! I replaced mine with an HTC G1. I would love a phone like the E72 again.

Re: Nokia E63 phone converted into LoRa messenger

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What is the licensing issue with this? It is like Ham radio license ? Something else? India has started banning drones outright and walkie talkies are banned unless you have prior police verification. I think they demand that radio exam, Morse and all but im not sure. Where does this fit? Is it like cellular connection?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoRa
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