EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax • Hacker News Board

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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Post by axiosgunnar » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:18 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #15

brobdingnagians wrote: post #7

To me, this just drives home the point that it is more about control than about anything scientific. The wealthy class want their perks and privileges while corraling the plebeians so that we won't use "their precious resources" or ruining their enjoyments.

"more about control" Control what though? It's a carbon tax on jet fuel. Makes sense to me that some folks with some connections could get themself exempt (even if unfair). But I don't see anyone else paying any more or less under "control"... those folks are still going to travel.

> It's a carbon tax on jets. Makes sense to me that some folks with some connections could get themself exempt.

Hilarious, that's corruption, plain and simple.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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Post by dharmab » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:19 PM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #17

I agree with the exemption for Cargo. Some things do depend on quick transportation and plane is the way to go. Now, for Private Jets? Yeah that's ridiculous.

The exemption for cargo appears to be because they lack the means to enforce it for carriers operated by non-EU carriers within the EU, due to other existing agreements.

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Post by mensetmanusman » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:20 PM UTC

Brussels eurocrats might enjoy comfy flights.

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Post by AndrewBissell » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:21 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #15

brobdingnagians wrote: post #7

To me, this just drives home the point that it is more about control than about anything scientific. The wealthy class want their perks and privileges while corraling the plebeians so that we won't use "their precious resources" or ruining their enjoyments.

"more about control" Control what though? It's a carbon tax on jet fuel. Makes sense to me that some folks with some connections could get themself exempt (even if unfair). But I don't see anyone else paying any more or less under "control"... those folks are still going to travel.

It's control of the global commons. The elites (or "folks", lol) want to preserve their ability to engage in forms of consumption which put a burden on the climate's ability to absorb CO2 while excluding the rest of the world from it as much as possible.

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Post by wonderwonder » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:22 PM UTC

I think its pretty nice that they care enough about normal / poor people to be willing to try and prevent global warming as long as those same normal / poor people pay for it and the rich are not inconvenienced.

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Post by rubyist5eva » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:23 PM UTC

Just goes to show fighting climate change is nothing but a power grab that makes life more miserable for regular people and making them more dependent on the rich and government.

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:25 PM UTC

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Post by traveler01 » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:25 PM UTC

So... Socialists taxing the rich... Right? Right?

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Post by trhway » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:26 PM UTC

duxup wrote: post #15

brobdingnagians wrote: post #7

To me, this just drives home the point that it is more about control than about anything scientific. The wealthy class want their perks and privileges while corraling the plebeians so that we won't use "their precious resources" or ruining their enjoyments.

"more about control" Control what though? It's a carbon tax on jet fuel. Makes sense to me that some folks with some connections could get themself exempt (even if unfair). But I don't see anyone else paying any more or less under "control"... those folks are still going to travel.

"some are more equal" (in this case - "CO2 emitted by some is less damaging"). Classic control.

Re: EU draft exempts private jets, cargo from jet fuel tax

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Post by adrianN » Thu, Jul 08, 2021, 6:26 PM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #17

I agree with the exemption for Cargo. Some things do depend on quick transportation and plane is the way to go. Now, for Private Jets? Yeah that's ridiculous.

If some things depend on quick transportation, I think it's fair that they cost a bit more.