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More than 30 states sue Google over 'extravagant' fees in Play store

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Re: More than 30 states sue Google over 'extravagant' fees in Play store

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Isn't the obvious question, why Google and not Apple? Or maybe, why not Google AND Apple?

The obvious answer is that the this kind of lawsuit is inherently to score political points, and for whatever reason the AGs saw more upside in suing Google than Apple.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They mean for the average app purchaser: $0.70 - App $0.30 - Apple Fee $1.00 - Total And I agree. The reason it’s obfuscated is because people would instantly realize it’s bad value.

Isn’t Apple’s fee 15% now? However, I do agree. It should be shown to the user like this.

Only for developers making less that 1 million in net sales per year will the fee be 15%. For every other developer, it's still 30%.

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This is the kind of thing that makes me confident CEOs, etc. are over paid by a ton. How good of a job are you doing if everyone hates your brand so much that a ton of governments are suing you? How valuable was all that JiT manufacturing bullshit that’s going to cost the car companies $100 billion this year. How good is the leadership that’s taken the brand image of companies that used to be respected (ex: GE applia…

JIT is really complex. I work in automotive and it’s actually really impressive on a deployment level.

However, yea, no one saw Covid coming. And, the whole 2008-Carpocalypse was extra bad because it wasn’t GM and Chrysler, it was literally everyone down the line. If GM went under, Johnson Controls goes under, and since they make every Toyota and Hyundai seat (IDK, figuratively, but probably) they struggle and go under too. It’s a fascinating deadlock / race condition of sales and profits and shipping.

I think it’s cool to see seats made two hours ago show up on the line at the exact second this body is on the line, installed, than a chassis that was made one a different line happens to line up and everything came together in seconds… but yes, there are some downsides.

Re: More than 30 states sue Google over 'extravagant' fees in Play store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They mean for the average app purchaser: $0.70 - App $0.30 - Apple Fee $1.00 - Total And I agree. The reason it’s obfuscated is because people would instantly realize it’s bad value.

Isn’t Apple’s fee 15% now? However, I do agree. It should be shown to the user like this.

If your app doesn't make over a certain amount. Large apps still have to

Re: More than 30 states sue Google over 'extravagant' fees in Play store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t Apple’s fee 15% now? However, I do agree. It should be shown to the user like this.

Only for developers making less that 1 million in net sales per year will the fee be 15%. For every other developer, it's still 30%.

First million is at 15% for everyone I figure?

Re: More than 30 states sue Google over 'extravagant' fees in Play store

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They mean for the average app purchaser: $0.70 - App $0.30 - Apple Fee $1.00 - Total And I agree. The reason it’s obfuscated is because people would instantly realize it’s bad value.

Isn’t Apple’s fee 15% now? However, I do agree. It should be shown to the user like this.

> Isn’t Apple’s fee 15% now?

I think both Apple and Google did that. It's a desperate attempt to avoid regulation IMO. I think both should be forced to facilitate competing app stores. There should be no mercy for them after a decade of anti-competitive price gouging.

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This is the kind of thing that makes me confident CEOs, etc. are over paid by a ton. How good of a job are you doing if everyone hates your brand so much that a ton of governments are suing you? How valuable was all that JiT manufacturing bullshit that’s going to cost the car companies $100 billion this year. How good is the leadership that’s taken the brand image of companies that used to be respected (ex: GE applia…

Sorry, but this is totally counterfactual. Public opinion holds God, the Post Office, and Google in a three-way tie for first place in trustworthiness.

Re: More than 30 states sue Google over 'extravagant' fees in Play store

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I'm really hoping someone wakes up and realizes the problem is not the fees but that consumers don't know about them. Let the consumer be informed about Google and Apple's rake on all their in-app charges. The outrage will take care of the rest. Not sure about Google, but Apple has deliberately prohibited developers from itemizing the 30% fee for consumers. That simple rule is what keeps their money pipe flowing. Mar…

This is an interesting point but it would apply to almost every line of business. Retail charges 60% markup. Imagine the outrage.

30% is a gross margin and doesn't take into consideration a lot of thigns.

It'd be nice if Americans were exposed to the margins of everything but I'm not sure how much would change.

The 'end price' for consumers is fair enough - the issue is one of competitiveness and that Android phones are oriented towards Google's stores is the root of the problem.

Re: More than 30 states sue Google over 'extravagant' fees in Play store

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I'm really hoping someone wakes up and realizes the problem is not the fees but that consumers don't know about them. Let the consumer be informed about Google and Apple's rake on all their in-app charges. The outrage will take care of the rest. Not sure about Google, but Apple has deliberately prohibited developers from itemizing the 30% fee for consumers. That simple rule is what keeps their money pipe flowing. Mar…

At risk of sounding idiot and down votes. Can you explain me when was the last time you saw the itemized breakdown of a toy, or a T-Shirt you bought in Target/Walmart? Same is true for Nintendo, Sony, and Xbox systems. Why do we think it's fair for Walmart to not show exact breakdown on how much commission they are charging for keeping something on shelf and Google is wrong about it?
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