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The Chelsea Hotel Becomes a New York Battleground

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This is largely irrelevant, but Leonard Cohen’s song “Chelsea Hotel #2” is the primary reason I find the hotel special. Every time I walk past the song pops in my head. I’d be excited to see the hotel returned to some glory, bohemian or not. It’s been under scaffolding for most of a decade it seems.

One of the things I think is special about NYC is the degree to which its physical places have become a part of the wider American culture. From Central Park to the 59th Street Bridge to the Empire State Building to Macy's, I probably knew more places in New York when I first moved there than I could name in my own home-town. Part of that is the relative sizes, but New York has a cultural footprint beyond other large…

Which is saying a lot considering how much larger the film industry is in Los Angeles. A huge percentage of films are done in southern California and even written into the script as taking place there. And yet the iconography and history of New York city is just so rich that it still pervades a lot of pop culture.

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One of the things I think is special about NYC is the degree to which its physical places have become a part of the wider American culture. From Central Park to the 59th Street Bridge to the Empire State Building to Macy's, I probably knew more places in New York when I first moved there than I could name in my own home-town. Part of that is the relative sizes, but New York has a cultural footprint beyond other large…

Which is saying a lot considering how much larger the film industry is in Los Angeles. A huge percentage of films are done in southern California and even written into the script as taking place there. And yet the iconography and history of New York city is just so rich that it still pervades a lot of pop culture.

Yeah, it's almost an indictment of LA.

I know there's a pier, but I'm not sure if there's one pier or a lot of them. I know about the concrete river, and the Hollywood sign, and that's about it.

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The Chelsea is a very special place. I was lucky enough to be born and live there for the first chunk of my life. The long term tenants are incredibly interesting people. Though it's known for its artist population, there are all sorts of folks that live there, writers (like my mom), musicians, painters, sculptors, but also psychologists, dentists, designers, architects (like my dad) and entrepreneurs.

My next door neighbor was an excellent painter named Herbert Gentry [1] and his wife Mary Anne Rose. To this day a small globe encased in an epoxy resin cube that I used to play with as a child while visiting him and he subsequently left for me in his will sits on my work desk underneath my monitors. Across the hall were a pair of sisters that lived together and ran their own business designing and selling, quite successfully, bizarre and gaudi sunglasses! I think the HN crowd might really have enjoyed them actually.

Halloween as a kid in the Chelsea was amazing, people would go to incredible lengths when opening the door for the horde of child sized monsters roving the beautiful wide hallways (The same hallways where I learned to roller skate!). I remember one resident that opened the door hanging upside down as Dracula. He was using one of those door frame mounted sit up devices, but the interesting part was he had somehow rigged his cape to fight gravity as well. Fishing line maybe? Stanley was quite the character. He's one of the first people, outside of my family, that I can remember meeting. He was one of the reasons the Chelsea is still so interesting to this day. It was a very different time. The artists could negotiate their rent payments with him and he was used to it. Now I doubt you could get away with that anywhere in Manhattan. It really was kind of like his own little menagerie.

Anyways, really cool place. If you're ever walking by, I'd encourage you to step into the lobby. I'm not sure what it looks like now, but there used to be some pretty visceral sculptures and other pieces of art in there.

(1): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Gentry

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Which is saying a lot considering how much larger the film industry is in Los Angeles. A huge percentage of films are done in southern California and even written into the script as taking place there. And yet the iconography and history of New York city is just so rich that it still pervades a lot of pop culture.

Yeah, it's almost an indictment of LA. I know there's a pier, but I'm not sure if there's one pier or a lot of them. I know about the concrete river, and the Hollywood sign, and that's about it.

My wife and I are Newyorkers (well, to be fair, Newjerseyans) that want to move out West. We love California, both SoCal and the Bay Area, in spite of its warts, and frequently visit.

But we realized that despite living right next door to NYC, we haven't really explored it. We might have explored LA or SF just as much if not more than NYC - especially the non-Manhattan boroughs. We've even started visiting San Diego right before Covid hit.

I'm not sure why to be honest. I guess the fact that it's just there and available whenever makes us postpone it.

While we still want to pack our bags to head out West, we've realized we really ought to take in NYC while we're still here.

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