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Re: Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches

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Post by proxyforce »

denysvitali wrote: post #18
dvh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen this strategy in movie and music business and the only reason I can think of is that they don't actually want to sell the product. Their real income is from something else, like sub-licensing to third-parties, so that they don't have to handle end users which is labor intensive. Or maybe they just want to get bought.

I would say that, generally speaking, data regulation is another huge topic. Not sure if how much it applies here though, but considering they process payments and similar, they need to implement GDPR stuff for Europe

Hey guys, I work on Neeva and wanted to add some more context re: US only launch. We work with partners to provide localized data for results such as weather, sports, movies and more. We're working hard to get these partnerships in place beyond the US, and we expect to launch in Canada and Western Europe within a few quarters.

Re: Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches

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Post by proxyforce »

bun_at_work wrote: post #12

This is super exciting. Every single "free" service that is supported by ad revenue should have a counterpart that is paid instead. I'm excited to try this, although I do tons of search from iOS, and want to know if this can be selected as the default search engine. It isn't clear from the FAQ.

Apologies for the confusion. We have our own iOS browser app which you can try here: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/neeva-browser-search-engine/id....

Also, we have instructions for setting Neeva as the default search on mobile Firefox and Chrome, along with a "workaround" for Safari: https://help.neeva.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500011550601-How-t...

(I'm an engineer working on Neeva)

Re: Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches

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Post by dclusin »

herlitzj wrote: post #9

Ads aren't the only problem. All the SEO clickbait is worse than the ads in my opinion. I can ignore the ads, but anymore a lot of the time the first page or two of results are just clickbait junk. Look at their example results. #3 looks like an SEO clickbait site to me. edit: Looks like you can customize results somewhat, so maybe that will help? A quick way to silence those kinds of hits would be nice.

Back during the heyday of land lines, phone book optimization was naming your company AAA because phone books were sorted alphabetically.

Re: Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches

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Post by sfe22 »

aufhebung wrote: post #25
merlinscholz wrote: post #20

Interesting that there is no mention of Brave Search here, a subscription-based search engine in public beta: https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/23/22547158/brave-search-bet...

Is Brave Search subscription based?

Not yet but it was noted that it will soon be

Re: Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches

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Post by Hayarotle »

MiddleEndian wrote: post #16
herlitzj wrote: post #9

Ads aren't the only problem. All the SEO clickbait is worse than the ads in my opinion. I can ignore the ads, but anymore a lot of the time the first page or two of results are just clickbait junk. Look at their example results. #3 looks like an SEO clickbait site to me. edit: Looks like you can customize results somewhat, so maybe that will help? A quick way to silence those kinds of hits would be nice.

For those who have joined, I'm curious about the following query: Are women better than men at limbo? The results on Google[0] and Bing[1] are both entirely useless clickbait. I just want to know if women can bend back farther than men without falling over. 0. https://www.middleendian.com/limbogoogle.png 1. https://www.middleendian.com/limbobing.png

At least Yandex seems to have gotten the gist of the question, and isn't full of clickbait, even if it doesn't answer the question (and seems to have mostly ignored the word "limbo")

https://imgur.com/a/XTIDjEG

Re: Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches

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Post by dekhn »

denysvitali wrote: post #18
dvh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen this strategy in movie and music business and the only reason I can think of is that they don't actually want to sell the product. Their real income is from something else, like sub-licensing to third-parties, so that they don't have to handle end users which is labor intensive. Or maybe they just want to get bought.

I would say that, generally speaking, data regulation is another huge topic. Not sure if how much it applies here though, but considering they process payments and similar, they need to implement GDPR stuff for Europe

you need to implement GDPR in the US too. https://gdpr.eu/compliance-checklist-us-companies/

Re: Neeva: Ad-free, subscription-based search engine launches

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Post by denysvitali »

dekhn wrote: post #29
denysvitali wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say that, generally speaking, data regulation is another huge topic. Not sure if how much it applies here though, but considering they process payments and similar, they need to implement GDPR stuff for Europe

you need to implement GDPR in the US too. https://gdpr.eu/compliance-checklist-us-companies/

If you don't handle data from the EU, nope
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