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Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Genuine question: I use DDG which also touts privacy and is free. Yes it shows ads, I’m told they are non tracking. What benefit does Neeva provide over it?

I think it's just another monetization model and another competitor overall in the space.

If you like the privacy of DDG but really don't like ads, you can pay Neeva a monthly fee for a similar experience.

Doesn't have to be winner-take-all - there's enough space in the market for both models to do well, and more competition will keep each of them honest in their value props to users.

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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post #20

Genuine question: I use DDG which also touts privacy and is free. Yes it shows ads, I’m told they are non tracking. What benefit does Neeva provide over it?

I think it's just another monetization model and another competitor overall in the space. If you like the privacy of DDG but really don't like ads, you can pay Neeva a monthly fee for a similar experience. Doesn't have to be winner-take-all - there's enough space in the market for both models to do well, and more competition will keep each of them honest in their value props to users.

Yes, I get that. I was curious if there were other differences.

For example DDG uses bing I think, does Neeva do their own indexing?

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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What’s strange to me is that they’re featuring “best X” in all these difference shots, yet their experience I still don’t think does a great job. Best at what? According to whom and why? What is the priority list?

The headphones graphic is a great example of that. We have over the ear headphones next to in-ear AirPods, serving likely different markets with different needs often at different price points. Their example with best mattress is from a very limited perspective; my fancy McRoskey mattress doesn’t show, yet I could easily argue that’s a top 5 mattress. It’s also out of most peoples price ranges and availability… but it really is one of the best (if all your care about is quality).

I have the same experience with Yelp. All these 5 star reviews projecting many dimensions from wildly different perspectives and expectations onto a single dimension as an average.

I’d love to see an honest attempt at either personalization or at least some kind of deeper analysis/tooling that lets me explore the set of possibilities. Do I value ambiance? Newness? Service? Location? Social experience? Price? Who are these people reviewing things and do their aesthetics resemble mine? There are way better experiences possible out there.

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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I have been using Neeva for several weeks. It took a while to stop my eyes from scanning past "the fold" in search results. The useful stuff is right there at the top. I can't say enough good about my experience thus far. I had a concern about search latency, so I emailed Sridhar at ceo@neeva.co and he replied in a few hours. We had a nice chat via email. Now I have a mug and a T-shirt. I'm looking forward to paying…

I've been part of the beta for a few months now. It's overall pretty good. I'm on the fence about paying $5/mo for it, but I'll probably do it for awhile at least.

My biggest gripes are the Yelp and maps integrations. When I search for local restaurants or locations, the Neeva map integration rarely finds what I want. When it does, I see Yelp reviews which I regard as complete trash.

Incognito mode is also annoying on my phone. Since I'm not logged I can't search with Neeva which is my default search provider.

On the plus side, it generally gives better programming search results. I'm a big fan of the "official documentation" filter.

My ultimate hope is that Neeva is eventually able to crawl self-hosted services and return them in my search results. For example, I have all my recipes in a self-hosted Bookstack instance and I'd love a search for "taco seasoning" to come up with the recipe I saved.

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I gave it a try a while ago and it looked like their search results come from bing like duckduckgo.

I'm not sure about that but they do have their own crawler so they're at least trying not to rely on Bing (if they do at all). https://neeva.com/neevabot

Last year when they announced they said they were using Bing: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/technology/google-neeva-e...

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just another monetization model and another competitor overall in the space. If you like the privacy of DDG but really don't like ads, you can pay Neeva a monthly fee for a similar experience. Doesn't have to be winner-take-all - there's enough space in the market for both models to do well, and more competition will keep each of them honest in their value props to users.

Yes, I get that. I was curious if there were other differences. For example DDG uses bing I think, does Neeva do their own indexing?

Neeva is trying to do better than Bing. Also, Neeva does not do ads.

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I get that. I was curious if there were other differences. For example DDG uses bing I think, does Neeva do their own indexing?

Neeva is trying to do better than Bing. Also, Neeva does not do ads.

Another interesting difference (that I personally find to be one of the best features in Neeva) is the ability to connect apps. You can then search not only the public web, but also private data from your Slack, Github, Gdrive, Jira (etc) accounts. We're hard at work adding more integrations in the near future as well.

Disclaimer: I'm an engineer at Neeva

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