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The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

#21
Good idea and poorly written.

This low-brow content should really be posted on Reddit and not HN: 1. Definition of Introvert is wrong: introvert can be gregarious, loud, and fun at parties. Introvert vs extrovert is more determined by where you get your energy from. 2. Mostly copies idea from this article [1]

[1] https://marker.medium.com/context-sensitivity-and-the-introv...

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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> Expect the balance of wealth and power to shift accordingly Haha, no, absolutely not. Power and wealth will still be accumulated primarily through persuading and influencing others. Good luck accumulating significant capital without that!

I hope we understand that influencing others can happen without meeting them in a room on their schedule? If we do, then perhaps the general zeitgeist will evolve to recognize the superpower therein?

In that case, it might favour "people who can type fast", not "introverts".

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It is not so much about intorversion vs. extorverson but rather IQ. Similar the 2008 financial crisis, the biggest losers of the Covid crisis and its recovery are the untalented, whose jobs are pay little and are replaceable and interchangeable like cogs. And the biggest winners, similar again to the post-2008 recovery, are the talented, whose wages exceed inflation and whose contributions are valued and are harder to replace.

Yet I have heard about plenty of people in major tech cmpanies like google and apple feeling like they are in a rut despite the good pay. So if you measure satisfaction by just money you miss out on other factors. It's not like a tech job guantees a path to deep and fulfilling work.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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post #6

One thing I have noticed when WFH is that random calls are more disruptive than someone calling to your desk. When someone calls to your desk you're already in that environment. When someone calls you when WFH they're entering your environment - if that makes sense. I also notice that status update meetings seem to be more common.

I disagree. I hate being at the office and at the mercy of whoever wants to walk by and talk to me. Even if I have an excuse for not talking, I'm still disrupted. At home, all interactions are filtered through my laptop, which is more predictable and manageable.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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It is not so much about intorversion vs. extorverson but rather IQ. Similar the 2008 financial crisis, the biggest losers of the Covid crisis and its recovery are the untalented, whose jobs are pay little and are replaceable and interchangeable like cogs. And the biggest winners, similar again to the post-2008 recovery, are the talented, whose wages exceed inflation and whose contributions are valued and are harder t…

IQ and pay are not related

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope we understand that influencing others can happen without meeting them in a room on their schedule? If we do, then perhaps the general zeitgeist will evolve to recognize the superpower therein?

> I hope we understand that influencing others can happen without meeting them in a room on their schedule OK, but this marginally favors introverts, if at all. People will still need to be aggressive in building relationships and influencing them. Does this sound to you like something introverts would enjoy, even if they're able to do it on Zoom?

Me and some other introverts I know actually find Zoom calls more draining than in person conversations. Not sure why.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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One of the changes due to WFH that I'm happiest about is how all meetings are now online, which makes my inability* to find the right time to take a turn speaking in a conversation less of a problem (since it's possible to "raise a hand" in most online meeting apps, or just drop a message in chat.) Better still, most meetings can be converted to emails, so this situation doesn't arise in the first place. I don't think most people realise how much anxiety this kind of stuff causes "introverts".

* Also shared by most people with ADHD.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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I've always felt that the introvert/extrovert dichotomy is such an oversimplification that it fails to be useful as a form of categorization. The degree to which someone is outgoing vs reserved is highly context dependent: maybe an individual is extraverted in their personal life but more restrained in a professional environment. Measuring these things is also so subjective that much of this is just a wash. Pieces of…

Being introvert vs extrovert is not about how one acts in social situations but whether one finds social situations draining or giving energy.

For some introverts that translates into avoiding social activity, but that is by no means a given.

I like many social situations and can be outgoing and animated in the right context, but no matter how much I might enjoy that, it is still exhausting to me, and that is what makes me introverted. I need solitude to recharge.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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I don't see remote work necessarily helping introverts since communication and online social connection is even more important when it doesn't happen by simply being in the same physical space. There is also even less social context to draw upon which is a problem for people who struggle in understanding social nuance. Introverts can very easily not make the extra effort to stay connected with co-workers which will p…

> There is also even less social context to draw upon which is a problem for people who struggle in understanding social nuance. I find that very beneficial though as people know that written situations lack context (so they add more info) and are more accepting of misinterpretations (so there is a lower penalty).

I don't agree with this. I oftentimes see colleagues from "distant" teams who have a tendency to use their own, opaque acronyms even when they specifically look for me to help them with something. My first response is always, basically, "what's XYZ?".

I think people have a tendency to assume that their context is shared by the other people.

Also, on a wider level, I think that the infamous "twitter wars" are due to people taking short sentences out of context. Of course, this is likely not the only reason, but it's probably a contributor.

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