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Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by kayoone »

Quite interesting. In Germany or Europe very very few programmers would make more than 100k USD (around 70k EUR) unless he is in some position where he leads a team or oversees bigger projects. Then i see how cheap cars and computer hardware etc is in the US and i really start to wonder where this massive difference comes from. US engineers seem to earn way more and generally pay much less for many things.

Apple hardware for example is the same price in EUR as it is USD in the US, cars generally the same or even less.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by smackfu »

jaxn wrote: post #16

If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

Unevenly sized buckets give weird data anyways. How would you show it on a graph? The buckets should be uniform, except for catch-alls at the ends, then you choose how to display them afterwards.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by vu0tran »

jaxn wrote: post #16

If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

I'm also very interested in this.

Can somebody else make a poll with ranges 50-59,60-69,70-79,80-89,90-100?

My karma's too low :(

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by almightygod »

jaxn wrote: post #16

If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

I think it adds value but I have also created a richer survey here (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey...)

The raw anonymous results will be shared on HN in a few days w/analysis.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by smackfu »

almightygod wrote: post #4
skarayan wrote: post #3

It depends a lot on the domain and your expertise of the business overall. For example, working for a non-profit is completely different than working on trading algorithms for a hot hedge fund where you also partake in creating the algos.

The domain/work/location doesn't change the fact of how much you get paid...just the justification for why it is a particular amount.

So you end up with salary data, but you have no way to analyze it in any way, for instance to answer "why do some people get paid x and other people get paid y?" So what's the point?

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by smackfu »

almightygod wrote: post #24
jaxn wrote: post #16

If you look at how salaries are distributed across the US public, the 60k - 100k category is way too large while 151k-200k should probably be just one range and not two. As someone who hires programmers, I am much more interested in how many people make between 60-70, 70-85, and 85-100.

I think it adds value but I have also created a richer survey here ( https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey... ) The raw anonymous results will be shared on HN in a few days w/analysis.

May want to clarify what domain means in order to get useful values for that.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by peteretep »

kayoone wrote: post #21

Quite interesting. In Germany or Europe very very few programmers would make more than 100k USD (around 70k EUR) unless he is in some position where he leads a team or oversees bigger projects. Then i see how cheap cars and computer hardware etc is in the US and i really start to wonder where this massive difference comes from. US engineers seem to earn way more and generally pay much less for many things. Apple hard…

Except contractors - good contractor in the UK makes £300-£600 day programming

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by mattj »

dekayed wrote: post #17
almightygod wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that is accurate. To my surprise...my NYC salary of $176,000 adjusted to San Francisco should be $217,151 Is SF really more expensive then NYC?

From the breakdown provided by the calculator, it looks like the big differentiator is housing costs (369 vs 250). My guess would be that they are using housing data for places like Queens/Brooklyn, where housing can be considerably cheaper than Manhattan, but are not considering places like South San Francisco, Colma, etc. when calculating the housing prices for San Francisco.

Queens / Brooklyn (other than Williamsburg) can be orders of magnitude cheaper than Manhattan.

Colma / South SF / Oakland are probably 30% cheaper than SF. Still cheaper, but not overwhelmingly so.

Re: Poll: How much do you make as a programmer?

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Post by almightygod »

smackfu wrote: post #26
almightygod wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it adds value but I have also created a richer survey here ( https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey... ) The raw anonymous results will be shared on HN in a few days w/analysis.

May want to clarify what domain means in order to get useful values for that.

yep - changed to industry
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