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Re: Stripe Reader

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What's stopping from coffee shops and SMBs from using Stripe? Why shouldn't they?

>great for developers I'm guessing this means that the setup process of stripe terminal isn't to the point where a non-developer can plug it in and go. Square is great because anybody competent enough to install an app on their phone can use it

They also don’t come with Point-of-Sale software. Square is all-inclusive while Stripe is DIY.

Re: Stripe Reader

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How do you enter a PIN code? i.e. Wholefoods accepts contactless payments and then guess what...you need a PIN code. I guess an app somewhere (like on a phone or iPad) needs to be handed over to you to do that...? I really dislike PIN code backed payments, the whole touchless/contactless experience should be as fast as paying for the "tube" in London with an Oyster IMHO

Generally mobile/web based payments don’t require PIN. I’ve never been prompted on a Square or Toast machine— only place I’ve ever been asked is on a traditional PINpad and Clover machines.

That's actually true! I totally forgot about my most recent Square/Clover experience...it's been months since I paid on those. Thank you for reminding me. I wonder how does it work in the back at the bank level, why are those OK vs like a Wholefoods or corner-store...

Re: Stripe Reader

#24
Stripe makes none of the hardware that is currently available (the BBPOS Chipper™ 2X BT or Verifone P400). Not sure which processing platform they are riding atop of these days (perhaps Tsys?) but we maintain a separate First Data account and CardConnect integration since Stripe's support for certain BINs of business cards is lacking. Said banks expect a breakdown of what was taxable to be sent along with the transaction, otherwise the transaction will be declined.

2.7% + $0.05 per transaction is expensive for in person payments. We are averaging 1.2% (since debit is so cheap) for our First Data account, with next day funding (Stripe has variable delivery, sometimes taking up to a week).

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post #17

Is it my imagination, or do the offerings from Square and Stripe continue to converge?

Surprisingly they have not encroached much on each other’s business, particularly Square moving very slowly into card-not-present.

Square's 3.5% + $0.30 transaction fee for card not present transactions is significantly higher than Stripe's 2.9% + $0.30 transaction fee.

Re: Stripe Reader

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It shouldn’t be surprising. That’s how you steal customers.

I’m not in the payment space, but it seems like it’s rapidly commodifying. The hardware to support mag stripe, contactless, and EMV isn’t terribly expensive per unit, and as long as there’s some bare minimum functionality, the competitive edge is the processing cost. This seems less about stealing customers and more about keeping Stripe attractive to existing customers who might be continually evaluating other paymen…

Gravity Payments, First Data Merchant Services (the direct sales side of First Data), Vantiv/Mercury and numerous other platforms and platform resellers (Square & Stripe resell others processing platforms) have spent the last decade driving down prices.

Some wholesale contracts for certain ISO resellers are as low as 1 basis point (.01% of a transaction) and $0.01 for bank underwriting (where the bank holds the chargeback risk if the underwritten business goes bankrupt), with platform fees being as low as 3 basis points and $0.02 cents.

Stripe is probably doing the underwriting in house, hence why sometimes deposits of recent transactions to your bank account are delayed for a few days to a week.

Re: Stripe Reader

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally mobile/web based payments don’t require PIN. I’ve never been prompted on a Square or Toast machine— only place I’ve ever been asked is on a traditional PINpad and Clover machines.

That's actually true! I totally forgot about my most recent Square/Clover experience...it's been months since I paid on those. Thank you for reminding me. I wonder how does it work in the back at the bank level, why are those OK vs like a Wholefoods or corner-store...

I think it’s configurable at the store. I’ve noticed a lot of transactions that ask for my pin usually say “please enter your pin or press here to skip,” save for 7-eleven (that’s like the only place where I actually have to enter it). PIN entry likely reduces liability, and I believe it’s significantly harder to chargeback for fraud.
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