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Matrix has become the messaging app of choice for top-secret communications

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Re: Matrix has become the messaging app of choice for top-secret communications

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My issue with Matrix is the philsophy attached to it. The founders and its most vitriolic supports are activists, through and through, and view Signal as a messaging app for activists. When the Cellebrite malware was added to Signal by the developer(s) I mentioned that Cellebrite was used by legitimate phone carriers to transfer data between an old phone and a new phone. I asked why my elderly mother, with whom I spe…

> My issue with Matrix is the philsophy attached to it. Did you mean to say Signal here instead of Matrix?

Indeed, went back to edit and noprocrast hit :| Matrix is fine.

Re: Matrix has become the messaging app of choice for top-secret communications

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Signal is Moxie and I personally don't trust Moxie and have some issues with his attitude. Does this make signal unsafe, no of course not but I don't trust it even if the encryption is top notch. Also remember you must have a phone number to use signal.

What specifically caused this distrust?

ThEy DiDnT uSe My FaVoRiTe CrYpTo!11! /s

Re: Matrix has become the messaging app of choice for top-secret communications

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Wonder what people here think of signal. I find it more user friendly than matrix. Any info about it's security vs matrix?

Signal as a network is controlled by a single individual, or small staff of individuals. There is a central server. Also there is no way to use signal anonymously. It is useful for talking to people you know in real life, but that's it. As to the user friendliness, I find more infuriating bugs (and "features") with signal these days, although that was not always the case. For example, if history is not restored on la…

> Another particularly heinous violation is that the signal app has code in it that slows it's functionality if the version is out of date, pressuring you to update.

Can you show me more info or the offending code?

Re: Matrix has become the messaging app of choice for top-secret communications

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Briar[0] is suppose to be a bit more secure than matrix which uses google captcha. [0]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.briarproje...

Matrix doesn't "use google captcha". Matrix.org, one instance among so many, uses google captcha. Matrix is a federated protocol, so you can choose another instance or setup your own

Re: Matrix has become the messaging app of choice for top-secret communications

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I tried this recently for the first time using Elements and have struggled with it. There's no message threading, so it's very hard to discover the history and flow of a subject when it's embedded in a larger conversation. I'll keep an eye on this and check back from time to time, but right now it's not for me.

Same for mattermost. Both are unmanageable in my opinion once you've used Zulip, Slack or more recently RocketChat.

There isn't even a date for the release of threads in any of the available client :/

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