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LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by harzhar »

version_five wrote: post #7

The behavior he's calling out is obviously abhorrent. But isn't this more due to him airing dirty laundry in public? If this is his last recourse after consulting internally to try and deal with this, then I get it. But there is definitely a trend (maybe not by him) of people running to social media with their complaints before discussing them with those involved. If that is the case i would understand his being sanc…

Whatever - every fucking person in SF that wanted a vaccine went and got one already. You didn't need to cheat either.

They're already taking down the mass vaccination sites.

This is all more liberal drama.

I wish someone would drop a nuke on SF.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by jollybean »

version_five wrote: post #7

The behavior he's calling out is obviously abhorrent. But isn't this more due to him airing dirty laundry in public? If this is his last recourse after consulting internally to try and deal with this, then I get it. But there is definitely a trend (maybe not by him) of people running to social media with their complaints before discussing them with those involved. If that is the case i would understand his being sanc…

From the information available publicly, it's obvious the issue was him airing his grievance publicly.

But being banned from YC is a fairly extreme measure - especially for an activity that has a hint of moral impetus.

Both 'skipping vaccine lines' and 'immediately naming and shaming private conversations to the entire world' are kind of selfish and toxic signals.

If I were the King of YC I would have had condescending words with both of them and told them to grow up and then that would be the end of it.

Note however, we don't really know what happened behind the scenes.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by ipaddr »

People have been kicked out of other important things for less. I wish they put a warning label on social media... don't post unless you want your words used against you in a future you haven't envisioned.

It may be too late but I would advise anyone to delete anything you wrote under your real name now. In 10 years you are going to get buried for what is normal today. They are coming for you.

What he did was wrong but in the 80s the info would have passed on to a small group at a pool party.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by antipaul »

rafaelero wrote: post #18

It's a bit distressing how organizations try so hard to keep a good reputation all the time. I mean, is it really that bad to publically admit that you are composed of people with questionable morals? For example, in the first company I used to work, I was always bitching about how things could improve. I got fired because I was "bringing the moral down" and was "working against the company". I could see why they wou…

Critique is good but depends on whether it is constructive or not constructive.

And that’s a bit of a subjective call

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by cryptoz »

saltedonion wrote: post #19

I’m confused. So YC kicked out the guy who complained about it on Twitter and not the people who advocated for lying to skip lines? Wtf?

I'm also confused. But it seems like the tweet in question is a false story that could be libel/defamation or something?

He later issues a 'correction' (why not delete the original wrong tweet?) that says that the story about "advocating for lying to skip lines" is false. [1]

I don't have any part of this and I'm confused and don't know what's going on here. But it does not seem like the tweet everyone is focusing on was even true. So the story becomes possibly, that YC kicked someone out for spreading lies about people in their internal community? I don't know.

[1] "I was incorrect in saying the 2nd founder lied, and would like to apologize." https://twitter.com/paulbiggar/status/1370144350861135881

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Post by hn8788 »

rafaelero wrote: post #18

It's a bit distressing how organizations try so hard to keep a good reputation all the time. I mean, is it really that bad to publically admit that you are composed of people with questionable morals? For example, in the first company I used to work, I was always bitching about how things could improve. I got fired because I was "bringing the moral down" and was "working against the company". I could see why they wou…

I obviously don't know your situation, but there's a difference between giving useful feedback and just constantly bitching about everything. You also have to consider that maybe you didn't have the full picture, and there actually was a good reason for what was being done, even though that would be a management failure to not convey why something needed to be done.

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Post by H8crilA »

pton-throw wrote: post #15

When did public denunciations become popular in the US? I know they've been a part of the Chinese internet since the early days. It wasn't always so intense in the US.

This is getting off-topic, but the US is like the motherland of telling other people how they should behave. Look up any of the "public freakout" videos, they're 80% each side trying to explain why what the other side did was wrong, all the while not realizing that pretty much nobody cares about their opinion and is just there to watch the drama for a few minutes. Every single "Karen" video is full of self-righteousness, that's what makes them so hilarious (until you get bored, which happens rather quickly).

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by chillacy »

rafaelero wrote: post #18

It's a bit distressing how organizations try so hard to keep a good reputation all the time. I mean, is it really that bad to publically admit that you are composed of people with questionable morals? For example, in the first company I used to work, I was always bitching about how things could improve. I got fired because I was "bringing the moral down" and was "working against the company". I could see why they wou…

Not exactly the same as orgs but it reminds me of the very very difficult skill of "criticizing the king". It's possible, but it requires a lot of finesse and skill, and even then you might get beheaded.

And it goes without saying, overtly criticizing the king is pretty obviously a bad idea.

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