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Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by kevingadd » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 8:42 AM UTC

NicoJuicy wrote: post #19

My neighbor has MS and can't physically move ( his head and he can still talk, but not the rest of his body) Is there anything that i can buy to improve his quality of life with? Even something small could be useful.

If you haven't had this discussion with him already (and you think you can comfortably have this chat), he may already have some ideas that he hasn't thought to mention.

Otherwise, one suggestion would be controllers for quadriplegics. There are a few options out there, afaik most are controlled with your mouth but there are also gaze-tracking options. I believe the XBox accessibility controller is compatible with some of them.

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by Cu3PO42 » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 8:49 AM UTC

simonh wrote: post #10

Cu3PO42 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's absolutely wonderful. I hope to never need it, but I'm so happy it exists for everyone that does. It also shows why controller compatibility between consoles might be more important than one would think: the "native" controllers might just be inaccessible. If you want to play on a Switch, you can use an adapter [0] to use the Adaptive Controller. Similar products exist for the PS4, I believe. Hopefully some…

There’s a V1.32 note in red on that page that says it’s now compatible with the PS5, but I’m not sure what that means exactly. It’s hard to say from the product page what this thing does.

I believe it means that you can now use the adapter to connect a PS5 controller to the Switch.

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by Cu3PO42 » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 8:53 AM UTC

devwastaken wrote: post #6

Cu3PO42 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's absolutely wonderful. I hope to never need it, but I'm so happy it exists for everyone that does. It also shows why controller compatibility between consoles might be more important than one would think: the "native" controllers might just be inaccessible. If you want to play on a Switch, you can use an adapter [0] to use the Adaptive Controller. Similar products exist for the PS4, I believe. Hopefully some…

IIRC Sony puts DRM in their controllers, there's a chip with a key on it that Sony only gives out to selected partners. I'm not sure how 3rd party companies did it without the chip but afaik the method is not open source.

This is true, unfortunately. A common way around that is that you must connect both the controller you want to use and an original PS4 controller to the adapter. The adapter will forward all DRM/handshake messages to the original controller, but forward the input from the desired one.

Unless Sony is now signing every message I see no reason why this approach couldn't be used on the PS5/DualSense. That said, my cursory search didn't reveal a working PoC.

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by Grazester » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 9:29 AM UTC

Zobat wrote: post #17

devwastaken wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC Sony puts DRM in their controllers, there's a chip with a key on it that Sony only gives out to selected partners. I'm not sure how 3rd party companies did it without the chip but afaik the method is not open source.

PS4 Controllers can be connected via BT to phones and via cable to PC with almost all functionality. There's an extension port on the controller but I haven't seen anything that plugs into it. Also don't know how easy it is to connect your own controller to the PS4 but there is an "ext" port on the controller that is reportedly a USB2 port but a proprietary shape.

You absolutely can't just use a USB compatible controllers on a PS4.

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by telesilla » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 9:32 AM UTC

I am terrible at video games. It's not what my brain does well so I miss out on playing computer games in general, I'm more interested in board games or cards. Not long ago I was waiting for laundry to be done with a friend who had a Nintendo Switch on her, and we started a game of Mario Kart. The entire time we played, maybe 15 mins, I thought wow, I'm better than I think! Then after the game I told my friend and she says, the whole time she was racing behind me to kill the bad guys so I could enjoy playing. What a beautiful gesture!

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by SalimoS » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 9:38 AM UTC

mclightning wrote: post #11

I wonder if they could make an AI co-pilot for those who don't have someone to company them as they play.

Won’t that be cheating ? (That’s how aimbot work on warzone and many fps on PC )

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by Xylakant » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 9:38 AM UTC

kevingadd wrote: post #21

NicoJuicy wrote: post #19

My neighbor has MS and can't physically move ( his head and he can still talk, but not the rest of his body) Is there anything that i can buy to improve his quality of life with? Even something small could be useful.

If you haven't had this discussion with him already (and you think you can comfortably have this chat), he may already have some ideas that he hasn't thought to mention. Otherwise, one suggestion would be controllers for quadriplegics. There are a few options out there, afaik most are controlled with your mouth but there are also gaze-tracking options. I believe the XBox accessibility controller is compatible with so…

There's one linked right on the XBox adaptive controller page https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/controllers/xbox-adap..., though boy, that's an expensive piece of hardware.

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by NicoJuicy » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 9:41 AM UTC

kevingadd wrote: post #21

NicoJuicy wrote: post #19

My neighbor has MS and can't physically move ( his head and he can still talk, but not the rest of his body) Is there anything that i can buy to improve his quality of life with? Even something small could be useful.

If you haven't had this discussion with him already (and you think you can comfortably have this chat), he may already have some ideas that he hasn't thought to mention. Otherwise, one suggestion would be controllers for quadriplegics. There are a few options out there, afaik most are controlled with your mouth but there are also gaze-tracking options. I believe the XBox accessibility controller is compatible with so…

I could have that talk with him. But i don't want to start it with no options or no suggestions.

Him and his wife don't have it easy ( they used to go walking in the mountains a lot, so the declining mobility in recent months are ... Depressing for them, although they don't really complain. I just notice it in the conversations when it comes up)

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by dividuum » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 9:42 AM UTC

NicoJuicy wrote: post #19

My neighbor has MS and can't physically move ( his head and he can still talk, but not the rest of his body) Is there anything that i can buy to improve his quality of life with? Even something small could be useful.

Can't really make any hardware recommendation, but as this post is about games, I would suggest trying out more puzzle like games like "The Witness" or "Outer Wilds". Despite being single player, I played both of them in tandem with my wife and I feel like it was a much better experience than playing alone as there was always something one of us would have missed or would get stuck on.

Re: Xbox co-pilot mode changed disabled sister’s life

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Post by rm445 » Thu, Jun 03, 2021, 9:44 AM UTC

telesilla wrote: post #25

I am terrible at video games. It's not what my brain does well so I miss out on playing computer games in general, I'm more interested in board games or cards. Not long ago I was waiting for laundry to be done with a friend who had a Nintendo Switch on her, and we started a game of Mario Kart. The entire time we played, maybe 15 mins, I thought wow, I'm better than I think! Then after the game I told my friend and sh…

I don't think another player can actually be that helpful in Mario Kart, but it does have extremely strong steering assistance, which can be enabled/disabled in the pause menu. Not trying to be rude by comparing you to a small child, but the main benefit is that little ones can join in and have fun while they're not quite co-ordinated enough to steer properly.

If you wanted to get more into gaming, a Switch would be a good choice. There are lots of games which are mechanically accessible (still not trying to be rude here) to six-year-olds, while still being a ton of fun.