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Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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The title of the article is misleading because it ignores fundamental differences between online communities and online social networks in the sense of Facebook, Myspace, etc. While Facebook may have areas in which digital communities form, it is a constructed primarily to facilitate and track communications between people with existing real world relationships - for users it is ateleological. On the other hand, Rave…

I thought those fundamental differences were the whole point of the article and what makes a community centered around things so useful.

The title isn't misleading to me.

Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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post #5

"Casey says that hobbyists of all stripes are constantly asking the company to branch out into other domains. The couple refuses to do that, in part because they don't have the resources (Ravelry makes enough money for them to live on, but not enough to hire a second full-time software engineer), but also because they believe that cloning Ravelry wouldn't work. Instead, they say, each pastime should have a social sit…

Stack Exchange has worked in a few other areas (math, for instance), but on the whole, I feel like most of the sites are nowhere close to the level of expertise and penetration into the community for a given topic as Stack Overflow. Stack Overflow is one of the best programming Q&A sites; most programmers these days will come across it doing Google searches for questions they have, there are a lot of very knowledgable people there, and so on. I feel like a lot of the Stack Exchanges don't have anything like that level or penetration; they are not well established in their communities, instead they are places for programmers and sysadmins who are familiar with Stack Overflow to talk about topics they are interested in, without actually attracting the expert community that makes some of the sites work so well.

Part of the problem, I think, is that some topics are just much more suited to objective questions and answers than others. In programming, math, system administration, and so on, there are enough objectively right or wrong answers to keep subjective discussion from overwhelming the site. In other topics, what people really want is subjective discussion, polls, and so on, which just don't fit the Stack Exchange model well.

I wouldn't quite say that Stack Exchange has been successful in its expansion. It's had a few successes in other domains, and limited success in a few more, but there are a lot of communities that are really struggling to find their footing.

Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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The title of the article is misleading because it ignores fundamental differences between online communities and online social networks in the sense of Facebook, Myspace, etc. While Facebook may have areas in which digital communities form, it is a constructed primarily to facilitate and track communications between people with existing real world relationships - for users it is ateleological. On the other hand, Rave…

I thought those fundamental differences were the whole point of the article and what makes a community centered around things so useful. The title isn't misleading to me.

It is misleading because it calls Ravelry a social network despite the important differences between social networks in the ordinary sense in which the term is applied to Facebook and online communities.

Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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post #19

Ravelry is a fantastic social network. It has a load of innovations worth copying. Two examples: - On Rav anyone can create a new discussion forum, and the creators are responsible for moderating it. It allows the community to continue to grow and embrace a wider range of people who could not otherwise coexist. - Rav has a like button for ages. It also have agree, love, and disagree, IIRC. Disagree might be mistake.…

The coder (Casey) has a blog: http://codemonkey.ravelry.com/ also of interest, the tech behind the site: http://codemonkey.ravelry.com/2010/03/24/ravelry-runs-on-201...

My fiancee knits a ton and loves Ravelry, so naturally I had to read through the dev blog a while back. Has anyone seen anything fun done with the API?

Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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Similarly, Goodreads is a targeted social network for readers. As well as letting me keep up with what friends are reading, it provides features like keeping track of books, reviews, etc. I have not seen the kind of development of community on the site that is described happening on Revelry though.

Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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post #26

Similarly, Goodreads is a targeted social network for readers. As well as letting me keep up with what friends are reading, it provides features like keeping track of books, reviews, etc. I have not seen the kind of development of community on the site that is described happening on Revelry though.

Now imagine if these sites could interconnect with a common, open protocol, and a user on goodreads could be friends with a user on Revelry.

Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

#29
My girlfriend has been active on Ravelry for some time, and we actually had dinner with a charming family that she met via Ravelry.

They actually hauled an antique spinning wheel across the country for her, made us some italian chicken, and regaled us with tales of revolutionary war re-enactment over dinner. utterly fascinating folk, generous and warm and welcoming. my girlfriend is now building a business around yarn, knitting and spinning, and ravelry is, and will be, instrumental to her growth.

it's one of the most impressive community/social network projects i've EVER seen.

Re: Why Facebook can't match Ravelry, the social network for knitters.

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post #26

Similarly, Goodreads is a targeted social network for readers. As well as letting me keep up with what friends are reading, it provides features like keeping track of books, reviews, etc. I have not seen the kind of development of community on the site that is described happening on Revelry though.

Now imagine if these sites could interconnect with a common, open protocol, and a user on goodreads could be friends with a user on Revelry.

Doable now with OStatus, is it not?
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