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The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Post by choeger »

awb wrote: post #13
whatshisface wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The specific sequence of rolls has 5 doubles (which can only occur one way) and 4 unequal pairs (which can occur two ways). Each double has a 1/36 chance of happening while the unequal pairs have a 1/18 chance. So that's 1/36^5 * 1/18^4 = 1/6,347,497,291,776 or about 1.5 times ten to the minus thirteen. It's interesting that the last four digits of the denominator of the probability of the shortest game of Monopoly a…

And don’t forget that Player 2 most also pick an “advance to Boardwalk” card out of a shuffled deck.

According to the law of cosmic improbabilities, it just has to happen in that Case.

To quote Terry Pratchett:

> Scientists have calculated that the chances of something so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.

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Post by Someone »

CapriciousCptl wrote: post #11

If you drop some presumptions about the players you can go even faster-- Player 1: Roll a 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11 or 12. Don't purchase, so it goes to auction. In auction player 2 buys for 100% of their cash. Player 2: Rolls a 4, lands on income tax. Game over.

You don’t even need that second roll. If, in that auction, a player bids more than the cash they have, they go bankrupt immediately (https://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/monins.pdf doesn’t say such bids are disallowed, and does say “The buyer pays the Bank the amount of the bid in cash” and “You are declared bankrupt if you owe more than you can pay either to another player or to the Bank.”)

This can happen after the first player rolled a double, so the first player’s turn doesn’t even have to be over for a player to go bankrupt.

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Post by Cyykratahk »

koolba wrote: post #16
CapriciousCptl wrote: post #11

If you drop some presumptions about the players you can go even faster-- Player 1: Roll a 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11 or 12. Don't purchase, so it goes to auction. In auction player 2 buys for 100% of their cash. Player 2: Rolls a 4, lands on income tax. Game over.

You’d be surprised how few people know about the rule for auctioning property that is not purchased. I’m guessing most people learned to play without reading the actual rules. It’s just passed down by copying the actions of your older siblings.

Exactly, even this run is using house rules, as the official rules state that you are required to own all properties of the same colour before building, and also that houses must be built evenly on each property.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Post by juped »

Cyykratahk wrote: post #23
koolba wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’d be surprised how few people know about the rule for auctioning property that is not purchased. I’m guessing most people learned to play without reading the actual rules. It’s just passed down by copying the actions of your older siblings.

Exactly, even this run is using house rules, as the official rules state that you are required to own all properties of the same colour before building, and also that houses must be built evenly on each property.

this isn't true about either the blog post (buys boardwalk and park place, purchases houses evenly on this complete property group) or the comment above (no houses or hotels are involved)

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Post by cortesoft »

CapriciousCptl wrote: post #11

If you drop some presumptions about the players you can go even faster-- Player 1: Roll a 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11 or 12. Don't purchase, so it goes to auction. In auction player 2 buys for 100% of their cash. Player 2: Rolls a 4, lands on income tax. Game over.

You would pay 10% of your wealth for income tax, so you could always mortgage your one property and pay the 10% of the mortgage value.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Post by cortesoft »

Cyykratahk wrote: post #23
koolba wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’d be surprised how few people know about the rule for auctioning property that is not purchased. I’m guessing most people learned to play without reading the actual rules. It’s just passed down by copying the actions of your older siblings.

Exactly, even this run is using house rules, as the official rules state that you are required to own all properties of the same colour before building, and also that houses must be built evenly on each property.

The blog buys both BW and PP, and buys houses evenly.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Post by insickness »

simlevesque wrote: post #4

The Youtube comment are saying that this requires players to make completely irrational moves and I agree

There's nothing irrational about this. Choosing not to buy properties is not irrational. Choosing to buy Park Place and Boardwalk and then put houses on it as soon as possible is not irrational. In fact, my strategy when I play is to get a color set as quick as possible while saving my money by buying as few other properties as possible, then spending all that money on houses/hotels for those few properties I have.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Post by thakoppno »

function_seven wrote: post #17
dylan604 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's when you sneeze or find some other reason to bump the table hard enough to lose the places of all of the pieces. "Ooops, I guess we'll have to pick this game up later"

Be the banker, embezzle the hell out of the bank, never worry about making rent. Eventually you’ll be discovered: “Hey! You’re cheating!” “Huh? I thought that’s what this game was about. Y’all started it with that Free Parking nonsense.”

There is an actual official version of “Cheaters Monopoly.”

The rules are beyond convoluted, likely encouraging second derivative cheating.

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