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Re: Anthropic AI

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Their paper "Concrete problems in AI safety"[1] is interesting. Could be more concrete. They're run into the "common sense" problem, which I sometimes define, for robots, as "getting through the next 30 seconds without screwing up". They're trying to address it by playing with the weighting in goal functions for machine learning. They write "Yet intuitively it seems like it should often be possible to predict which a…

So they're on safety, explainability, steerability and so-forth. It seems like you could call these "holistic" properties and they have always been hard to add to add to a system - indeed, it seems like in a conventionally constructed system they tend to have to be engineered-in from the start. The success of deep learning might be something of a curse - it's go enough success that creating a safe system seems to aut…

The success of deep learning might be something of a curse

Possibly. In AI, someone has a good idea, there's great enthusiasm, people in the field predict Strong AI Real Soon Now, the good idea hits a ceiling, and then people are stuck for a while. AI has been through four cycles of that. The ceiling of the current cycle may be in sight.

The next big problem is, as they say, "safety", or "common sense". Nobody really has a handle on how to do that yet. Checking proposed explorations against a simulation of some kind works if you can simulate the world well enough. Outside that niche, it's hard.

Collecting vast amounts of data to predict what can go wrong without an underlying model runs into combinatorial limits. More things can go wrong than you are likely to be able to observe.

Good that there are people thinking about this.

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Seems you can see some of them on their company linkedin page : https://www.linkedin.com/company/anthropicresearch/about/

LinkedIn authwall, we meet again. Could someone list the researchers (if there are any, and assuming there are only a few). Frankly, it's not a great sign that the Anthropic site isn't touting the research team itself and LinkedIn sleuthing is even necessary.

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LinkedIn authwall, we meet again. Could someone list the researchers (if there are any, and assuming there are only a few). Frankly, it's not a great sign that the Anthropic site isn't touting the research team itself and LinkedIn sleuthing is even necessary.

Current list (in LI order): * Dario Amodei * Benjamin Mann * Kamal Ndousse * Daniela Amodei * Sam McCandlish * Tom Henighan * Catherine Olsson * Nicholas Joseph * Andrew Jones

Co-founder Tom Brown

Re: Anthropic AI

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Complete waste of money.... Better to burn cash directly cause that at least generates heat... This will generate nothing

Since this is Hacker News, I'll point out that training on GPUs produces plenty of heat.

they should create some GPU-based crypto instead of wasting all that heat

talking about AI safety when there is no AI in sight is like arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, time is better spent actually building models of (natural) intelligence

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Looking at the team seems to be all ex-openai employees and one of the cofounders worked on building gpt3. Will be exciting to see what they are working on and if it will be similar work to openai but more commercialized.

I wonder why they left Open AI? Maybe they didn't like Microsoft's influence, or they felt that Open AI wasn't really open, or that it didn't have enough focus on safety?

Or they just didn't like their boss that much?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since this is Hacker News, I'll point out that training on GPUs produces plenty of heat.

they should create some GPU-based crypto instead of wasting all that heat talking about AI safety when there is no AI in sight is like arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, time is better spent actually building models of (natural) intelligence

Always seems like the strongest opinions on AI come from those with the weakest backgrounds in the subject.

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Is it appropriate to ask an on-topic but naive question?

It seems as a layman that safer and more legible AI would come from putting neural networks inside of a more 'old-fashioned AI' framework - layers of control loops, decision trees etc based on the output of the black box AI. So at least if your robot crashes or whatever, the computer vision output is in some legible intermediate form and the motion is tractable to traditional analysis.

This can't be an original thought, it must already be done to a large extent. But I get the impression that the way things are going is to get the trained model to 'drive' the output, for whatever the application is. Can someone with current industry knowledge comment?

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Excited for this! While OpenAI has generated plenty of overhyped results (imo as an AI researcher), their focus on large scale empirical research is pretty different from most of the field and had yielded some great discoveries. And with this being started by many of the safety and policy people from OpenAI, I am pretty optimistic for it.

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they should create some GPU-based crypto instead of wasting all that heat talking about AI safety when there is no AI in sight is like arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, time is better spent actually building models of (natural) intelligence

Always seems like the strongest opinions on AI come from those with the weakest backgrounds in the subject.

you're not wrong, most of the talk about dangers of AI comes from opinionated AI dilettantes like Musk who then throw millions of dollars on pointless "AI safety" initiatives.

I just hope some of that money would trickle down to fundamental research into inner workings of common sense.

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