Tesla Rescinds Job Offer • Hacker News Board

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by cercatrova » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:31 PM UTC

cbsks wrote: post #13

1cvmask wrote: post #3

This is an interesting comment on the Linkedin page: In my experience, This is actually not that surprising, don’t find yourself cornered by such situations, always get offers more than one and then keep them on their edge until you have joined. Such is corporate life.

Yeah, that doesn’t match my expectation at all. Does that commenter think that you should always have multiple job offers before giving notice to your current job?

Yes? Isn't the common advice that you should have multiple offers in hand before giving notice? Or do you give notice without an offer?

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by threatofrain » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:32 PM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #8

If he wanted to, he could probably sue Tesla for tortious interference of his previous job, since he gave notice at the previous job because of them. Also, it really sucks that Tesla didn't offer him severance given that he was effectively laid off. Hopefully he can at least get unemployment.

It's sad that to address his issue he probably has to burn down any and all opportunity with Tesla.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by GiorgioG » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:33 PM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #8

If he wanted to, he could probably sue Tesla for tortious interference of his previous job, since he gave notice at the previous job because of them. Also, it really sucks that Tesla didn't offer him severance given that he was effectively laid off. Hopefully he can at least get unemployment.

He would lose 99.999% of the time thanks to `at will` employment.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by jacob2484 » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:34 PM UTC

snotrockets wrote: post #6

Tesla is a horrible employer? Shocking news! Next you'll tell me the sun is hot, or that elephants are quite big.

Anything to back up your statement? I know a few folks who love working there.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by babelfish » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:34 PM UTC

cercatrova wrote: post #21

cbsks wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that doesn’t match my expectation at all. Does that commenter think that you should always have multiple job offers before giving notice to your current job?

Yes? Isn't the common advice that you should have multiple offers in hand before giving notice? Or do you give notice without an offer?

The middle ground here, and what most people do, is giving notice when you have one (1) offer in hand. You shouldn't need multiple

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by PeterBannon » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:34 PM UTC

The same thing happened to me in late 2018.

I was hired to write a compiler for deep learning (training) on Tesla's in-house hardware, under Peter Bannon.

I resigned from the job I had at the time, and Tesla backed out of the contract shortly before my start date.

Tesla is ruthless.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by pkaye » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:35 PM UTC

jlawer wrote: post #2

I am unfamiliar with the US employment law, but isn't the job offer a contract? Therefore I am assuming you would still be compensated, and its simply a matter of finding your next gig? Or is this as simple as the offer could be modified and therefore your shafted?

Most jobs are "at-will employment" in the US so they can dismiss you any time and the employee can leave at any time. A decent company would try to find an alternate position in the company given that a person had just quit their old job.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by Taniwha » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:35 PM UTC

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #14

throwaway158497 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, emoployees can leave company any time. And they leave companies on short notices! Cuts both ways!

Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?

There are places where you must give a certain amount of notice, some countries (Germany I think) expect people to change jobs at particular times of the year (like only at a quarter)

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by stormbrew » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:36 PM UTC

cercatrova wrote: post #21

cbsks wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that doesn’t match my expectation at all. Does that commenter think that you should always have multiple job offers before giving notice to your current job?

Yes? Isn't the common advice that you should have multiple offers in hand before giving notice? Or do you give notice without an offer?

If you're hoping to negotiate a counter from your current employer maybe you should have multiple, it probably gives you a stronger hand. If you're leaving either way why would you?

And this isn't about 0 offers vs. many, it's 1 offer vs. many.

Re: Tesla Rescinds Job Offer

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau » Tue, May 25, 2021, 11:36 PM UTC

GiorgioG wrote: post #23

jedberg wrote: post #8

If he wanted to, he could probably sue Tesla for tortious interference of his previous job, since he gave notice at the previous job because of them. Also, it really sucks that Tesla didn't offer him severance given that he was effectively laid off. Hopefully he can at least get unemployment.

He would lose 99.999% of the time thanks to `at will` employment.

It's part of an implied contract however. Unless you know of some court cases where people lost because of it.