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Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by CJefferson »

pmoriarty wrote: post #9
aidenn0 wrote: post #5

I haven't tried very hard yet, but magic has been fairly unintuitive for me. Perhaps it's just that I've been using git for so long. There have been several times that I tried something with magit, and messed things up enough that I just dropped into a shell and did everything with the git command line

Do you remember what you tried? Yours has been literally the first negative comment out of hundreds of comments I've read about magit. It'd be interesting to learn what didn't work for you and why.

I didn't like it, I have several friends who tried it and didn't like it. The main problem (for us) was that people said "Hey, this is so great you should use it even if you don't use emacs".

This is (in my opinion) terrible advice, as you need to be a fairly competent emacs users to use magit, else you will keep hitting weird situations you can unable to escape (as you don't know the emacs thing to do).

Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by codemonkey-zeta »

dmm wrote: post #14
jhvkjhk wrote: post #4

I heard lots of praise to Magit. Is there a way to use it like a standalone git client? Like tig, lazygit, etc.

Sure, just open the git repo in a magit. I do it almost every day.

Did you mean "open the git repo in a magit buffer"? Because then I'd agree.

To address GP comment, you can just install vanilla emacs, then install magit, and just use that as your "standalone" app.

Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by b0afc375b5 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #5

I haven't tried very hard yet, but magic has been fairly unintuitive for me. Perhaps it's just that I've been using git for so long. There have been several times that I tried something with magit, and messed things up enough that I just dropped into a shell and did everything with the git command line

Hang in there. I was a beginner at magit (and emacs, to boot) and had to keep at it for a few weeks before it became intuitive for me. I also had to google how to push and fetch and revert every time, because I would keep forgetting it. And emacs keybindings was weird to me at the time, since I was used to vim keybindings.

Just practice, practice, practice. I can attest that the benefits are worth your while (if you use git daily, at least).

Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by AlexCoventry »

dhess wrote: post #17
unhammer wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tried native-comp? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24117853

I have, on macOS, and somehow, it has much much worse lag than Mitsuharu Yamamoto's Emacs "Mac port," [1] which is still based on Emacs 27.2. The native comp version was so slow that I gave up and switched back to Mitsuharu's port, which is snappy enough for my needs even without the native compilation bits. From what I gather, mainline Emacs was adversely impacted by changes in Mojave. [2][3] The end result, for me,…

Emacs 28 is much faster for me, on ubuntu, FWIW.

Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by chewxy »

I ran `magit-version` and I got Magit 20201225.4, which I assume is the 2020 Christmas edition of Magit. Did they suddenly switch to semver?

Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by Tehchops »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #20
the_duke wrote: post #6

Emacs is too laggy for me as my main editor. But Magit is so good that I start emacs up just to use it as my Git interface if I can't get by just with the CLI. Sadly there is no Vim plugin that is competitive. There is vimagit [1], but it's not on par. [1] https://github.com/jreybert/vimagit

I upvoted you but... How comes Emacs is laggy for you? I'm running a beefy Emacs setup and it is really responsive. If anything Emacs in the nineties was "Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping" but... We're in 2021 now and now it's still 8 MB, so it's a rounding error (I'm only exaggerating a bit). It's one my lightest app: starting Emacs, eval'ing some elisp, and exiting takes... 81 ms. Eighty-one milliseconds. To…

I'm using the Emacs Mac port on a modern(2019-era) MBP and it absolutely crawls when working on a large, multi-file Terraform code base.

Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by [deleted] »

iudqnolq wrote: post #13
the_duke wrote: post #6

Emacs is too laggy for me as my main editor. But Magit is so good that I start emacs up just to use it as my Git interface if I can't get by just with the CLI. Sadly there is no Vim plugin that is competitive. There is vimagit [1], but it's not on par. [1] https://github.com/jreybert/vimagit

I agree. I've been considering trying to replicate magit in a tui. I'm not sure if I should go for a straight port (many people might find useful, eventually) or change lots of things to make it fit my workflow (might be more likely to "finish" if I optimized for me). My dream git workflow is rebase-first, i.e. you have multiple WIP commits at any given time, and can send an unstaged hunk to any of them with the same…

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Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by CJefferson »

jhvkjhk wrote: post #4

I heard lots of praise to Magit. Is there a way to use it like a standalone git client? Like tig, lazygit, etc.

I would strongly recommend first doing some emacs tutorials -- you don't have to start using emacs as your editor, but (in my opinion) magit does assume you have some understanding of how emacs works.

Re: Magit 3.0

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Post by agumonkey »

the_duke wrote: post #6

Emacs is too laggy for me as my main editor. But Magit is so good that I start emacs up just to use it as my Git interface if I can't get by just with the CLI. Sadly there is no Vim plugin that is competitive. There is vimagit [1], but it's not on par. [1] https://github.com/jreybert/vimagit

> Emacs is too laggy for me as my main editor.

wonder what kind of projects do you use

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