I'm honestly pretty torn at this point which vaccine I should be going for. It seems like every week there is another article insinuating that there is some poorly understood, potentially high impact, facet of a given vaccine. Anyone else "holding out?"
Pfizer vaccine reprograms innate immune responses
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#22Is the article saying that the pfizer vaccine reduces the inflammatory response to covid19 and happens to increase the inflammatory response to some random fungus?
I must have re-read this article a whole bunch of times and I'm still not convinced I understood anything at all.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me I'm waiting $N years till I consider getting a covid shot. According to the oxford calculator[0] my risk of hospitalization is microscopic so I take that chance over trying out new under-tested vaxines. [0] https://qcovid.org/
I hope you continue to social distance for $N years, because vaccination isn't just about you -- its about protecting those who would be at risk. It's also about reducing the risk of mutation. The more people it can infect, the greater the risk. We don't want to be dealing with a new variant that the vaccines don't protect against, and go back to square one. Being scared of a well-tested vaccine over a virus that has…
Those "at risk" should already have been vaccinated before the people "not at risk" have been.
> It's also about reducing the risk of mutation. The more people it can infect, the greater the risk.
It goes both ways: the more people that are vaccinated, the higher the selection pressure to evade the vaccination.
> Being scared of a well-tested vaccine over a virus that has killed 3.5 million worldwide and continues to do so is ridiculous.
Spare us your shaming, it has the opposite effect of what you intend it to have.
> The vaccine is why things are slowly starting to return to normal.
Notice how the narrative is slowly drifting from "protect the vulnerable, prevent the collapse of health care" to "every child needs to be vaccinated as soon as possible"? This is not "normal".
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#24I'm honestly pretty torn at this point which vaccine I should be going for. It seems like every week there is another article insinuating that there is some poorly understood, potentially high impact, facet of a given vaccine. Anyone else "holding out?"
Unless you are a researcher in the field, there are certainly more important things for you to be worrying about. Just get a vaccine, any vaccine.
If you are young and healthy, there is a high chance that getting infected with COVID is harmless. Your body will deal with it in the natural way. Furthermore, the risk of getting infected at all is not 100%. I could make the same argument here: There are more important things to be worrying about than COVID.
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#25I'm honestly pretty torn at this point which vaccine I should be going for. It seems like every week there is another article insinuating that there is some poorly understood, potentially high impact, facet of a given vaccine. Anyone else "holding out?"
For me I'm waiting $N years till I consider getting a covid shot. According to the oxford calculator[0] my risk of hospitalization is microscopic so I take that chance over trying out new under-tested vaxines. [0] https://qcovid.org/
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Unless you are a researcher in the field, there are certainly more important things for you to be worrying about. Just get a vaccine, any vaccine.
I fail to see any logical reasoning here. This research suggests an unspecific alteration to your immune system. It affects everyone who gets vaccinated, not just researchers. If you are young and healthy, there is a high chance that getting infected with COVID is harmless. Your body will deal with it in the natural way. Furthermore, the risk of getting infected at all is not 100%. I could make the same argument here…
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me I'm waiting $N years till I consider getting a covid shot. According to the oxford calculator[0] my risk of hospitalization is microscopic so I take that chance over trying out new under-tested vaxines. [0] https://qcovid.org/
So were the chances of two MMA fighters. And yet Covid ended the career of them both. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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#28I'm honestly pretty torn at this point which vaccine I should be going for. It seems like every week there is another article insinuating that there is some poorly understood, potentially high impact, facet of a given vaccine. Anyone else "holding out?"
For me I'm waiting $N years till I consider getting a covid shot. According to the oxford calculator[0] my risk of hospitalization is microscopic so I take that chance over trying out new under-tested vaxines. [0] https://qcovid.org/
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I for one value keeping my sense of smell and taste higher than the risks i’m seeing from vaccines - eliminating the risk of hospitalization is just a bonus
I don't agree on waiting years for a vaccine, however the loss/alteration of sense of smell and taste is temporary. It can last more than the other symptoms, but usually after a few weeks it gets back to normal again. I got symptomatic Covid last October and the spike protein test taken at the end of March reports I still have several hundreds u/ml of anti-rbd antibodies, so I'll be reasonably safe for some time, but…
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me I'm waiting $N years till I consider getting a covid shot. According to the oxford calculator[0] my risk of hospitalization is microscopic so I take that chance over trying out new under-tested vaxines. [0] https://qcovid.org/
My fiance and I are holding out for same reasons.