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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by tw04 »

seanalltogether wrote: post #7

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

It's not half and half, it's touchscreen with a physical volume knob which in my opinion is the right way. Having touch controls for volume is a horrible idea (my car has touch control for everything and I despise trying to get the volume adjusted quickly).

https://i.imgur.com/Lw4GgNW.jpeg

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by WORMS_EAT_WORMS »

mkmk wrote: post #14
seanalltogether wrote: post #7

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

This interface is already in production in the electric mustang. The buttons are all touchscreen, with the exception of the physical center wheel which is embedded in a hole in the screen. The photo on this article may be helpful: https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/02/im-obsessed-with-the-ford-...

Disgusting and awesome. I hate and love it.

Just a mind bending and creative design all around.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by perardi »

I have no idea if this’ll be lightning or a lead balloon, because a significant amount of pickup truck buyers do it for the machismo.

Which sounds like some city-slicker talking down to the cheap seats, except, I grew up in a town named Farmington. (Go Farmers.) I know pickups. I know the people who drive pickups. My dad sneers at fancy new pickups because he used to shove a good 700 pounds of mink pelts in a pickup, and he thinks all that leather would get stained by the blood nowadays. And pickup truck buyers love their macho trucks. They like the burble of the engines and the swagger and that it’s not some little penalty box of a green car.

An electric pickup? Sure, sounds rational, especially with that torque. But does it trigger the libs enough?

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Something that might help, though: that price.

“but rather its price because the 2022 F-150 Lightning will start at just $39,974 before any government rebates.”

Given the just eye-watering prices of pickups these days: that’s cheap, relatively.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by thanatos519 »

CalRobert wrote: post #8

It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.

Don't forget that electric vehicles are almost silent.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by greenie_beans »

seanalltogether wrote: post #7

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

Yuck! I don't look forward to this in my future lifetime of vehicles. I'll have to wait for "dumb" electric vehicles.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by toomuchtodo »

dubcanada wrote: post #18
CalRobert wrote: post #8

It's great to see the best selling vehicle in the US be zero emissions. It's wonderful. But this truck will be very heavy, very tall, and very fast. Drivers are already the leading killers of children, and more and more people are being killed while walking and cycling. I'm very worried about the effect of making this vehicle even faster and heavier. Hopefully reduced deaths from pollution offset this.

Wait, so you're against cars? I am confused as to what any of that has to do with the new electric F-150.

EVs are heavier by nature (this vehicle’s battery pack alone is ~1800 lbs). Your average driver is not good at driving. The F150 sells very well. Ergo, more risk of more property damage and human harm.

You can’t get around physics. More mass with more force carries more risk.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by MattGaiser »

mkmk wrote: post #14
seanalltogether wrote: post #7

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

This interface is already in production in the electric mustang. The buttons are all touchscreen, with the exception of the physical center wheel which is embedded in a hole in the screen. The photo on this article may be helpful: https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/02/im-obsessed-with-the-ford-...

Probably quite functional, but it looks like a tumor on top of the screen.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by matthewmcg »

pionar wrote: post #10
namdnay wrote: post #4

I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.

I've never been one of those things, but they're still useful. I had an F150 for a while that I only used to transport things like mulch or helping friends move or moving myself. I still have an old Ranger that I use for those purposes today. It seems insane to assume you can be the judge of what's "useful" or "utility".

A truck is great to have for all kinds of reasons. I think the issue is that a combination of automaker marketing and various regulatory and tax incentves/loopholes drive people to purchase more trucks than they otherwise would.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by namdnay »

pionar wrote: post #10
namdnay wrote: post #4

I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.

I've never been one of those things, but they're still useful. I had an F150 for a while that I only used to transport things like mulch or helping friends move or moving myself. I still have an old Ranger that I use for those purposes today. It seems insane to assume you can be the judge of what's "useful" or "utility".

I think you're being a bit unfair. We all agree that they're useful, but surely in a world win which we need to

a) reduce road and parking space in order to encourage better forms of transportation ,

b) reduce our consumption of natural resources

,maybe we need to discourage individual ownership of 3000kg utility vehicles?

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