Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

Post by pseudalopex » Fri, May 21, 2021, 12:28 AM UTC

grillvogel wrote: post #17

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It’s a combination of a few things: (1) Tech demands a lot from its employees. We are dedicating a significant portion of our waking hours. They expect us to believe in their mission, and so we also expect that mission to align with our values. (2) Technology itself is much more far reaching than any other industry. These corporations are massive, and with them massive budgets for lobbying etc. Not demanding that the…

>we also expect that mission to align with our values. "we" do? personally i expect my employer to provide financial compensation in exchange for me doing things for them. beyond that i don't really care about whether the giant corporation i work at is truly reflecting my core beliefs. i suspect that they probably aren't. > reflect the values of their employees do all employees truly feel the same way about every iss…

Post by geofft » Fri, May 21, 2021, 12:42 AM UTC

bsaul wrote: post #6

It’s about time the continuous flow of statements from big corporations around political (supposedly consensual) issues start to backfire. Just make your customers happy, don’t strongarm them, don’t overprice your products, and pay taxes, is all people are really asking from corporations.

Post by geofft » Fri, May 21, 2021, 12:44 AM UTC

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Yup. Radio silence on that front for years. But it’s not just them, it’s many others on this new trendy virtue signaling dance until they later do something incompatible with their public statements and ignore it once again when called out. Perhaps Coinbase and Basecamp are the clever ones to resist accidentally signing up to the lifetime of demands from extremely politically charged activists that thrive from catchi…

My wish they’d all eventually gravitate to one particular state (Calif or NY, whatever) attracted by their common goal, do their thing there, let the rest of us work in peace and they can go on with their forever revolutionary activism to their hearts’ content till they realize that someone has to do actual productive work to ensure continuity.

Post by Mountain_Skies » Fri, May 21, 2021, 12:56 AM UTC

geofft wrote: post #23

bsaul wrote: post #6

It’s about time the continuous flow of statements from big corporations around political (supposedly consensual) issues start to backfire. Just make your customers happy, don’t strongarm them, don’t overprice your products, and pay taxes, is all people are really asking from corporations.

This isn't a statement from a big corporation, though. This is a statement from employees of the big corporation (presumably all of whom feel comfortable leaving on a moment's notice) to the corporation. Companies have long known that making your customers happy involves retaining skilled employees, and that incurring extra costs to keep skilled employees happy is worthwhile for the business. Sometimes that involves…

Post by paul_f » Fri, May 21, 2021, 1:01 AM UTC

musicale wrote: post #28

Glad they picked a simple issue where it's easy for everyone to agree on things. Presumably Apple will have an easy time resolving a conflict after the UN and US have repeatedly failed. ;-) Given that Apple has a reasonably large R&D facility in Haifa and a fair amount of business in Israel, I don't see them disinvesting any time soon. I could imagine them opening a Palestinian office and more stores though.