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Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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Cold emailing people has an incredibly low success rate. Though getting a professional looking website and email address might help. The emails often end up at some assistant who's afraid to bother the big boss. If you can, try to get in direct contact with people who call the shots, and ask them to take a 10 min meeting or phone call.

I like how the actual secret to success is basically 'already be an insider with lots of connections'. I definitely don't think you're wrong; it just goes against the esoteric startup narrative we always see.

That’s one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that if you’re the kind of founder who comes up with and executes on good ideas, other smart people want you to be part of their networks. So networking is ultimately just giving other equally cool people the chance to meet you. It’s really a service.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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One of the things that has consistently shocked me as I've gotten older is how hard some companies make it for people to actually give them money! I'm like, "Hey - I'm waving these hundred dollar bills here for you to take in exchange for your product." And they're like, "Meh.."

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

#23
When I have worked at a big corp and have integrated with a third-party API, there has always been an 'engagement' with the enterprise company's Professional Services/Sales Engineers/??? about a contract and SLA for use of the API. This might get your foot in the door. If you can bring $$$ to the table, that's another helpful approach, even if it's a token offering - $10/mo or whatever at least tells them that you're serious.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

#24
Typically, api is charged based on usage, which means you use the api first, then you pay.

It’s likely that some users sign up, use the api, and never pay, e.g., use a debit card with low balance.

Turn the table. If you were running such an api, what would you do to avoid situations like this?

I operate a podcast api business [1]. Initially we allowed anyone to sign up. Then we got tons of malicious users who abused the api and never paid us. Then we have to manually review every signups.

[1] https://www.listennotes.com/blog/how-i-accidentally-built-a-...

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

#25

One of the things that has consistently shocked me as I've gotten older is how hard some companies make it for people to actually give them money! I'm like, "Hey - I'm waving these hundred dollar bills here for you to take in exchange for your product." And they're like, "Meh.."

If their typical deal price is X,XXX or XX,XXX then XXX is "not worth their time". Most likely they are not even allowed to do smaller deals if they are outright ignoring you.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

#26
I've been through this and can definitely offer some advice, assuming you are pursuing a partnership:

- Buy a domain for your email and have a website; the website can just claim it's "coming soon" and look modern and promising.

- Ensure your email is personalized and targeted, and include direct propositions to how you will increase revenue or decrease cost or offer growth — something, anything — to the company. Super short cold emails don't work as well for startups in my experience.

- Address your emails to everyone relevant you can find, but surprisingly, C-level execs appear more likely to respond than lower-level people. They'll often forward your email to the most relevant person who will then feel obligated to reply and hear you out.

- Once in meetings, your advantage as an early startup is your flexibility. Know what you're capable of, and then listen well. Tell them what they want to hear as long as you're capable of building it and it's worth it to get them on board.

If you want to talk further on this, let me know and I can send you an email if you put it in your HN profile, and good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how the actual secret to success is basically 'already be an insider with lots of connections'. I definitely don't think you're wrong; it just goes against the esoteric startup narrative we always see.

That’s one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that if you’re the kind of founder who comes up with and executes on good ideas, other smart people want you to be part of their networks. So networking is ultimately just giving other equally cool people the chance to meet you. It’s really a service.

Sure, but that's a difficult problem to bootstrap. You need to be able to execute on your ideas, which requires a network (at least that's what it seems like for the original poster who can't find clients). It's a weird cyclical system.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

#28
The simple truth is that even small companies get solicited a dozen times a day. Managers at larger companies get hit up even more. Even if they get past the spam filter, most go strait into the trash.

So to answer your first question: at a minimum you MUST get a company domain, set up a company website and email addresses, etc. This is the absolute bare minimum bar. Even dog walkers have this. Further, you must setup an actual company (LLC, corporation, whatever). No business will sign an integration deal with a random individual (if for some reason you need that) -- it's just not gonna happen. No company is going to spend a lot of time helping a non-customer individual integrate into their system without a very good specific reason.

You need to understand the motivation for these other enterprise SAAS companies to setup an integration API. It will vary, but generally it often boils down 1) trying to increase sales for them or 2) trying to increase customer lock-in.

If, for whatever reason, you really need to talk to someone at these companies, your best bet is to look for a connection through your personal relationship network. This is one reason why things like LinkedIn still are still valued by some despite its drawbacks. You may be surprised at who people you know know.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

#29
I can say from experience on the other side that asking random employees of the company for API access on LinkedIn could work. People will inevitably drop a screenshot into Slack, ask who can help with this, and the right people will get tagged to take a look. No promises they actually do anything, but its probably a better shot than cold emails.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

#30
What type of API integrations would you need? In my experience, it can be very difficult to get any type of support from a big company if you're not paying. If possible, I would offer a free POC to a potential customer, who is also a customer of the services you want to integrate with.
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